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Old 03-01-2025, 06:32 PM
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Must be. Transparency must bother you?
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Must be. Transparency must bother you?
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I'm sure if Leon changed the policy you would.
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I'm sure if Leon changed the policy, there would be a lot of unhappy members and a lot fewer items posted for sale.
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I posted this earlier, but it got lost in the rest of the thread so no one really commented on it.

According to the seller, he was already discussing purchase of the card with others who had contacted him when the OP posted that he would take it if still available. If the seller was a dealer selling the card in question at a show and someone else was discussing buying the card from him and the OP just walked over and said "I'll take it", I would consider that rude and inappropriate. Is it different just because this happened online?
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I posted this earlier, but it got lost in the rest of the thread so no one really commented on it.

According to the seller, he was already discussing purchase of the card with others who had contacted him when the OP posted that he would take it if still available. If the seller was a dealer selling the card in question at a show and someone else was discussing buying the card from him and the OP just walked over and said "I'll take it", I would consider that rude and inappropriate. Is it different just because this happened online?
I mean, it doesn’t seem rude and inappropriate to me in an online setting. Largely because he doesn’t know who else is having what other conversations. That and it’s not an interruption the way it is in person.

On the other hand, demanding that the seller has to sell to you or getting agitated over the internet could start to seem a bit much.
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I posted this earlier, but it got lost in the rest of the thread so no one really commented on it.

According to the seller, he was already discussing purchase of the card with others who had contacted him when the OP posted that he would take it if still available. If the seller was a dealer selling the card in question at a show and someone else was discussing buying the card from him and the OP just walked over and said "I'll take it", I would consider that rude and inappropriate. Is it different just because this happened online?
It's a mantra of the BST that "I'll take it" takes precedence over continuing negotiations. And of course it's different to walk up to a table and try to undermine a potential deal in progress before your eyes, and posting online where there is no indication a deal has been made or is imminent.
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I mean, it doesn’t seem rude and inappropriate to me in an online setting. Largely because he doesn’t know who else is having what other conversations. That and it’s not an interruption the way it is in person.

On the other hand, demanding that the seller has to sell to you or getting agitated over the internet could start to seem a bit much.
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It's a mantra of the BST that "I'll take it" takes precedence over continuing negotiations. And of course it's different to walk up to a table and try to undermine a potential deal in progress before your eyes, and posting online where there is no indication a deal has been made or is imminent.
True, it may not be rude because they don't know what other discussions are going on, but it seems to be analogous. I don't see why the seller has to immediately ignore everyone else who he may have already been in contact with just because someone else says "I'll take it". I've definitely seen listings where that is indicated so if someone says that in their listing, then they should follow it. If they don't say it explicitly, why should they have to drop everyone else just to contact someone else?
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True, it may not be rude because they don't know what other discussions are going on, but it seems to be analogous. I don't see why the seller has to immediately ignore everyone else who he may have already been in contact with just because someone else says "I'll take it". I've definitely seen listings where that is indicated so if someone says that in their listing, then they should follow it. If they don't say it explicitly, why should they have to drop everyone else just to contact someone else?
If someone says I'll take it at your price, WHY would you continue to negotiate with someone ELSE hoping that they eventually get to the place you are already at? This is not making any sense to me. The only issue is should Cody have given Jonathan more time before looking elsewhere, and I say yes. This isn't complicated -- the answer to that question is either yes or no, depending on your POV. Or, if you think contract law is the only relevant consideration, then fine, Cody was free to do whatever he wanted.
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If someone says I'll take it at your price, WHY would you continue to negotiate with someone ELSE hoping that they eventually get there? This is not making any sense to me.
I'm not saying I would negotiate with someone who was offering a lower price, but what if they just asked for better pictures or had a question about the card? If they were the first person to contact me about it and I had already responded to them, I don't know that I would just tell them, too bad, someone else bought it. It certainly wouldn't happen that way in person.
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If someone says I'll take it at your price, WHY would you continue to negotiate with someone ELSE hoping that they eventually get to the place you are already at? This is not making any sense to me. The only issue is should Cody have given Jonathan more time before looking elsewhere, and I say yes. This isn't complicated -- the answer to that question is either yes or no, depending on your POV. Or, if you think contract law is the only relevant consideration, then fine, Cody was free to do whatever he wanted.
Because with the first person it was a cash plus trade deal for my card. He could not send pics of the cards he wanted to include in the deal for a few hours when he got off work. In the meantime I had an extremely generous cash offer. Personally I waited until the first guy could send me pictures of the trade part of his offer to make my decision. I felt that was the correct thing to do.
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True, it may not be rude because they don't know what other discussions are going on, but it seems to be analogous. I don't see why the seller has to immediately ignore everyone else who he may have already been in contact with just because someone else says "I'll take it". I've definitely seen listings where that is indicated so if someone says that in their listing, then they should follow it. If they don't say it explicitly, why should they have to drop everyone else just to contact someone else?
I think it hinges on whether “I’ll take it” trumps all else, and as long as you’re the first to say those magic words, then it’s yours.

I think the general idea is that saying “I’ll take it” is tantamount to clicking the “buy it now” button on eBay. It automatically yanks the item off the platform and no one else can attempt to buy it, and all pending offers are automatically rescinded.
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