Genuine question, what is with the National staying in Chicago

[Leon]

To answer the question specifically, if I recall, when Mike Burkus (RIP) spoke at one of the Net54baseball Dinners, he said it was cost, ingress/egress, and being able to do a contract several years out, were the main reasons for where the National was held. For those that don't know, Mike managed, and helped found, the National since day one until he passed in late 2015.

[Snapolit1]

Seems like a short sighted move. Like anything else, you want to grow the business model. Expose it to more people. Would make more sense to have in different locales. Give people opportunity to make it a vacation, etc. With present location you are just churning the same hard core base of people year after year.

Chicago a nice town. Business takes me there a few times a year. Nothing interesting about it as a convention locale.

[Rich Klein]

Simplest Reasons

1) As noted: Easy access to the show from the airport for out-of-town guests and dealers

2) The Stephens people know how to run shows. Air Conditioning should be better going forward. Cost appears from these comments to be reasonable for the promoters as well.

**** 3) The DEALERS who vote on where to put the show want it there. Until some location shows it can be better for them than Chicago, then folks we ain't moving. ******

4) As noted; Plenty of food and hotel options accessible. Baltimore, St. Louis (1995) and Anaheim are also great locations for hotels/walking to the show/accessibility to dining places. Atlanta is improving on those levels but unless you like heat more oppressive than Chicago can be, then that's not for you.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Load in and out sucks at Stephens, and I can't believe that doesn't bother more dealers. Other than that (and the AC situation last time which was insane) I like the location.

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by Rich Klein

**** 3) The DEALERS who vote on where to put the show want it there. Until some location shows it can be better for them than Chicago, then folks we ain't moving. ******

If I'm not mistaken, they're asking dealers who already are at the National. The ones who'd want it to move are already not there and not voting.

[Rich Klein]

Originally Posted by Tabe

If I'm not mistaken, they're asking dealers who already are at the National. The ones who'd want it to move are already not there and not voting.

Yes they are, but if those dealers want to stay in Chicago, that's where we are staying. Hate to tell you this, but that is a simple equation. You got to get the votes from people who are paying for the tables

Rich

[notfast]

Baltimore will never be an option. Not even close to enough space required.

Atlanta should be a reasonable option but dealers love Chicago and Atlantic City. I personally also love Chicago for reasons everyone has listed above.

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by notfast

Baltimore will never be an option. Not even close to enough space required.

Atlanta should be a reasonable option but dealers love Chicago and Atlantic City. I personally also love Chicago for reasons everyone has listed above.

Those two years that the National was in Baltimore (2010 and 2012) were fantastic.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by notfast

Baltimore will never be an option. Not even close to enough space required.

Atlanta should be a reasonable option but dealers love Chicago and Atlantic City. I personally also love Chicago for reasons everyone has listed above.

I don't know if dealers truly love AC. I thought when they voted for the next few locations, there was an offer for AC to be free (or almost free) for dealers, and it still wasn't picked. Someone else may be able to provide better details about what the offer was, but from what I remember reading, it sounded like they were really trying to push AC and it didn't happen.

[brewing]

Originally Posted by notfast

Baltimore will never be an option. Not even close to enough space required.

Atlanta should be a reasonable option but dealers love Chicago and Atlantic City. I personally also love Chicago for reasons everyone has listed above.

As an Atlanta resident I would love Atlanta. But the city sucks for getting around and restaurants/places to go downtown sucks. Perhaps at Cobb Galleria in Marietta.

Savannah Trade Center would be wonderful. But since the airport is small airline tickets there can get pricey.

[parkplace33]

Originally Posted by Rich Klein

Yes they are, but if those dealers want to stay in Chicago, that's where we are staying. Hate to tell you this, but that is a simple equation. You got to get the votes from people who are paying for the tables

Rich

Trust me, dealers would set up on Mars if they could make a buck. Again, it goes back to convenience.

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by Rich Klein

Yes they are, but if those dealers want to stay in Chicago, that's where we are staying. Hate to tell you this, but that is a simple equation. You got to get the votes from people who are paying for the tables

Rich

It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. You're asking people in Chicago if they want to stay in Chicago. You'd get different dealers in California and then, if you hold it there, those guys are going to vote to hold it there again.

[Rich Klein]

Originally Posted by Tabe

It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. You're asking people in Chicago if they want to stay in Chicago. You'd get different dealers in California and then, if you hold it there, those guys are going to vote to hold it there again.

Those are the people who are, ahem, paying the bills for the show. We had a vote a couple of years for Atlanta, Atlantic City or Chicago and AC basically offered the dealers a rebate on their booths and we still ended up in Chicago.

I know it can be a tough concept for some people, but those people have paid the bills for the show have more of a right to determine where they want to be than you or I do. I'd love to see Arlington, TX continue to grow so we can have another NSCC here in the DFW area but I seriously doubt you'd get enough votes.

And I'll wager the promoters are always looking at other options to present to the people voting on the subject. But, frankly, in my opinion only, Chicago/ Rosemont is the best place to park the NSCC now and in future years.

[toppcat]

Considering how close it is to the airport, the number of hotels and restaurants in walking distance (plus the Chicago Dogs ballpark, shopping, casinos), it's a fairly good location. Yeah the AC sucks and the food onsite is a joke (although it's quite easy to have something delivered) but the way the whole thing is essentially in one place is pretty sweet I think. And if you want to go Downtown, there is public transit close by.