HOF Autograph Collection Question?

[whyconform]

Excellent Q:

Us collectors like consistency.....and it's a PAIN i know..... card collectors want ALL their cards in PSA, or SGC slabs, etc.....

Same with Autos......

I just picked up HOF auto #295, Ross Youngs.....I really had no choice but to rely on a baseball to get him.....you'll learn this as you go......

8x10's, Cuts, and 3x5's are like the worst to get.....you'll ultimately want to upgrade to be honest......

I tend to prefer flat items AND the following:

1. Certified on card autos (like Topps/UD/Panini)..... no fakes....resellable.... this takes care of at least 100-140 names......

2. Once you start getting into the harder names, I stick to things like Government Postcards, Letters, Contracts, checks..........
I'm the odd one in PREFERRING extra writing and dates, etc....reduces the likelyhood of a fake.......

3. You'll realize that only certain names are on only certain mediums (for the most part). It would suck to get a Ross Youngs Flat, for instance ($$$$$$) compared to a Giants ball, same as a baseball only collector getting a single signed rare guy that is a $10 perez steele auto.....


Point being.....1 medium is everyone's hopes, but limits who you can get....and best of luck collecting!!!!!! -Bill



PS: many HATE the cut signatures on sports cards.....they ruin nice original items....use bad autos sometimes, and cut out parts of the sig. As a card collector too, I don't mind, HOWEVER, some players will be 2-3x the price.......... IE: a cut signature from a check of Cobb will go 3x what a full Cobb check completely filled out in his hand will go for........that to me is a head scratcher...... to me...you have to be a 'card' collectors to only get it.

[homerunhitter]

Originally Posted by whyconform

Excellent Q:

Us collectors like consistency.....and it's a PAIN i know..... card collectors want ALL their cards in PSA, or SGC slabs, etc.....

Same with Autos......

I just picked up HOF auto #295, Ross Youngs.....I really had no choice but to rely on a baseball to get him.....you'll learn this as you go......

8x10's, Cuts, and 3x5's are like the worst to get.....you'll ultimately want to upgrade to be honest......

I tend to prefer flat items AND the following:

1. Certified on card autos (like Topps/UD/Panini)..... no fakes....resellable.... this takes care of at least 100-140 names......

2. Once you start getting into the harder names, I stick to things like Government Postcards, Letters, Contracts, checks..........
I'm the odd one in PREFERRING extra writing and dates, etc....reduces the likelyhood of a fake.......

3. You'll realize that only certain names are on only certain mediums (for the most part). It would suck to get a Ross Youngs Flat, for instance ($$$$$$) compared to a Giants ball, same as a baseball only collector getting a single signed rare guy that is a $10 perez steele auto.....


Point being.....1 medium is everyone's hopes, but limits who you can get....and best of luck collecting!!!!!! -Bill



PS: many HATE the cut signatures on sports cards.....they ruin nice original items....use bad autos sometimes, and cut out parts of the sig. As a card collector too, I don't mind, HOWEVER, some players will be 2-3x the price.......... IE: a cut signature from a check of Cobb will go 3x what a full Cobb check completely filled out in his hand will go for........that to me is a head scratcher...... to me...you have to be a 'card' collectors to only get it.

Thanks bill for this in depth write up. This is very valuable advice and I appreciate you very much for taking the time to help me out.

I’ve been reading a lot in a thread on here that’s talking about a new hobby movie/documentary I believe recently released on Netflix that talks about all of the forgeries in our hobby. For those here that have knowledge and experience with PSA slabbed signed Perez steeles, is there are concerns or much that I should worry about or be concerned about with collecting Perez steeled slabbed by PSA. Are they a high forgery target item? Are there a lot of fake Perez steered out there? Anything I need to look for or will I generally be safe collecting PSA slabbed signed Perez steeles ( I don’t want to get burned with forgeries if you guys think PSA Perez steeles are a problem please give me the straight scoop on these! Save me a big headache down the road please! Thanks so much

[Kco]

Originally Posted by homerunhitter

Thanks bill for this in depth write up. This is very valuable advice and I appreciate you very much for taking the time to help me out.

I’ve been reading a lot in a thread on here that’s talking about a new hobby movie/documentary I believe recently released on Netflix that talks about all of the forgeries in our hobby. For those here that have knowledge and experience with PSA slabbed signed Perez steeles, is there are concerns or much that I should worry about or be concerned about with collecting Perez steeled slabbed by PSA. Are they a high forgery target item? Are there a lot of fake Perez steered out there? Anything I need to look for or will I generally be safe collecting PSA slabbed signed Perez steeles ( I don’t want to get burned with forgeries if you guys think PSA Perez steeles are a problem please give me the straight scoop on these! Save me a big headache down the road please! Thanks so much

Perez Steeles are generally very safe. PSA slabbed or JSA Certed ones have been on the money 99% of the time. Most of the PS Sets are limited run (EG 10k runs or fewer sets). Typically, the autos are from a small era for each signer, so they are relatively similar and its usually pretty easy to spot oddball bad ones. Not that fakes aren't out there, but they are fewer and further between.

I have a huge run of signed PS myself, including a lot of the tougher names. There are a few to be very leery of that are monsters in that set, including Paige. Many guys who are relatively common autos are many multiples on a standard auto in Perez Steele format (Puckett, Ashburn, Paige ($5000+) as some examples).

[homerunhitter]

Originally Posted by Kco

Perez Steeles are generally very safe. PSA slabbed or JSA Certed ones have been on the money 99% of the time. Most of the PS Sets are limited run (EG 10k runs or fewer sets). Typically, the autos are from a small era for each signer, so they are relatively similar and its usually pretty easy to spot oddball bad ones. Not that fakes aren't out there, but they are fewer and further between.

I have a huge run of signed PS myself, including a lot of the tougher names. There are a few to be very leery of that are monsters in that set, including Paige. Many guys who are relatively common autos are many multiples on a standard auto in Perez Steele format (Puckett, Ashburn, Paige ($5000+) as some examples).

Hey Kevin! Thanks so much for your response. I appreciate it very much.

That’s good to hear my friend. My gut feeling was/is that forgers are probably not targeting signed Perez steeles of guys like Bob Feller, Bobby Doerr, Ferguson Jenkins, Phil Niekro or Brooks Robinson. But just wanted to ask to make sure 110% that I can collect these and not be held holding the hot potato years for now! Especially with guys like Mantle, Williams, DiMaggio, Mays, Aaron, Koufax and Campanella.

[Kco]

Originally Posted by homerunhitter

Especially with guys like Mantle, Williams, DiMaggio, Mays, Aaron, Koufax and Campanella.

Thankfully that list is supremely easy (outside Campy) to filter out.

[frankbmd]

You might say I planned ahead, for this post.







I've had this autograph book for 69 years. I don't even remember asking for it, but mom obliged.

My elementary school was 1/2 mile or less from Jack Russell Stadium where the Phillies played their spring training games. By the time school was over, the games were usually in the 4th inning. Admission was free after the fourth inning.

The visiting teams came by bus and parked about 25 yards from their locker room door. This is where I solicited the Killebrew autograph shown earlier in another recent thread here. Fortunately it was the pre-Sharpie era, but my ballpoint pen was less than ideal as well.

They're not all Hall of Famers within, but the book contains quite a few. In addition to Killebrew, it contains Snider, Alston, Campanella, Minoso, Ashburn, Doby, Stengel and Malzone to name a few and many other names you would recognize. All obtained in person, but I didn't have a camera or my cell phone with me at the ballpark. No one ever stole my bike either. Those were the days.

[REG1976]

My only HOF autograph from the Minors signed after the game, the only cost was the ticket