Hobby Hustle Documentary 2-16-25

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by BioCRN

Some people got some real strong conspiracy feelings about the Black Swamp Find beyond some people being upset or happy about the surge of very high end cards suddenly showing up.

I'm not sure there's many left after the initial skepticism on the discovery, though. I think there's more converts than skeptics left, anyway.

https://www.net54baseball.com/showth...ht=Black+swamp

After I started the thread above, a member of the family began communicating with me about the find, the auction process, and all the stress and anxiety (and of course excitement). That person was very credible. Since my return to the hobby, I have learned that the population of the cards is now much greater than previously reported and/or assumed, but I still believe there is no way they are fake. The number of people and companies that would’ve had to conspire together in order to pull that off… there’s just no way.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by 4815162342

https://www.net54baseball.com/showth...ht=Black+swamp

After I started the thread above, a member of the family began communicating with me about the find, the auction process, and all the stress and anxiety (and of course excitement). That person was very credible. Since my return to the hobby, I have learned that the population of the cards is now much greater than previously reported and/or assumed, but I still believe there is no way they are fake. The number of people and companies that would’ve had to conspire together in order to pull that off… there’s just no way.

I am in no way saying they are fake as I know nothing about the BSF. I am surprised how many think printing from 100 years ago is some outrageously difficult thing that nobody could do now. I have a great uncle that owned a fairly large printing company and 2 lifelong friends that have decades in printing. Trust me you do not have to be smart to do anything related to printing a simple picture on paper. Knowing that I have been amazed for a very long time way more top quality counterfeits have not completely flooded the market. With the way printing is dying I am amazed some small print shop owners haven't given it a shot because their company is or has gone bankrupt.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

I imagine the piece is about the hobby as a whole, not just the scandals.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Spotlighting fraud in baseball cards is so 2020-2022.

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Spotlighting fraud in baseball cards is so 2020-2022.

Good one!

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by bnorth

I am in no way saying they are fake as I know nothing about the BSF. I am surprised how many think printing from 100 years ago is some outrageously difficult thing that nobody could do now. I have a great uncle that owned a fairly large printing company and 2 lifelong friends that have decades in printing. Trust me you do not have to be smart to do anything related to printing a simple picture on paper. Knowing that I have been amazed for a very long time way more top quality counterfeits have not completely flooded the market. With the way printing is dying I am amazed some small print shop owners haven't given it a shot because their company is or has gone bankrupt.

The difficult part is reproducing paper stock to look and feel the exact same way as the originals. Although getting it just close enough that it would fool the "experts" likely isn't as tall of a task.

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by 4815162342

https://www.net54baseball.com/showth...ht=Black+swamp

After I started the thread above, a member of the family began communicating with me about the find, the auction process, and all the stress and anxiety (and of course excitement). That person was very credible. Since my return to the hobby, I have learned that the population of the cards is now much greater than previously reported and/or assumed, but I still believe there is no way they are fake. The number of people and companies that would’ve had to conspire together in order to pull that off… there’s just no way.

Nah. Just takes a couple people to make counterfeits of sufficient quality.

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by Tabe

Nah. Just takes a couple people to make counterfeits of sufficient quality.

lol

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by 4815162342

lol

What makes you think otherwise? Which is more plausible - a gigantic conspiracy of tons of people all ignoring counterfeits or.....

A small team of people creating counterfeits that aren't detectable?

The latter, of course, since it's already happened with numerous other items across multiple collecting genres.

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by Tabe

What makes you think otherwise? Which is more plausible - a gigantic conspiracy of tons of people all ignoring counterfeits or.....

A small team of people creating counterfeits that aren't detectable?

The latter, of course, since it's already happened with numerous other items across multiple collecting genres.

Neither.

[parkplace33]

I am interested in this documentary. Plenty of material to choose from

As for Black Swamp, I think more collectors were just mad about the flood of pristine cards coming out.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by parkplace33

As for Black Swamp, I think more collectors were just mad about the flood of pristine cards coming out.

Certainly those who had slaved away on a Registry set in a 3 or 4 who now had the tobacco era equivalent of 1988 Donruss on their hands.

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by 4815162342

Neither.

Now that we probably agree on.