More interest in raw cards in 2024 - Observations

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by gst6

I will say... I don't understand grading modern cards at all. It's got to be, what, 90%+ 8s or 9s? And magically all the hyped 1/1s get 10s. To me, card grading is mostly card authenticity, and that's just not needed for something like the Skenes debut patch.

Grading with modern is really just a mechanism for culling back the insane print runs into 10s and not 10s.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Snowman

Grading with modern is really just a mechanism for culling back the insane print runs into 10s and not 10s.

What a game!
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[Gorditadogg]

Originally Posted by Snowman

Grading with modern is really just a mechanism for culling back the insane print runs into 10s and not 10s.

Yes! Exactly. It's like I have whole sets of junk wax cards that I bought for $10. Wouldn't it be great to go through the 700 cards to find one that's worth $10 and throw the other 699 out.

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[Exhibitman]

For some sets, you can. I bought a large collection of junk wax sets, ended uo with maybe 100 cards from it. 1990 Score, for example, the Bo Jackson BB/FB card is worth as much as the rest of the set. Pull the Jacksons and a few of the rookies (Thomas, Schilling, Sanders, etc.) and big stars (Griffey, Ryan, Bonds, etc.) and junk the rest.

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

For some sets, you can. I bought a large collection of junk wax sets, ended uo with maybe 100 cards from it. 1990 Score, for example, the Bo Jackson BB/FB card is worth as much as the rest of the set. Pull the Jacksons and a few of the rookies (Thomas, Schilling, Sanders, etc.) and big stars (Griffey, Ryan, Bonds, etc.) and junk the rest.

Instead of the junk pile, alternatively you can send them to a artist desperately in search of such material to slice up for use in their baseball card montage creations.

Help a starving baseball card artist in need!


Brian (I am not one of these artists, mainly because I find it difficult to cut cards using the small, rounded point kiddie scissors allowed around me at home)

[Balticfox]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

1990 Score, for example, the Bo Jackson BB/FB card is worth as much as the rest of the set. Pull the Jacksons and a few of the rookies (Thomas, Schilling, Sanders, etc.) and big stars (Griffey, Ryan, Bonds, etc.) and junk the rest.

Groan.... That's what I hate about the mentality of sport card collectors these days. Non-sport card collecting is much better balanced or sensible in that regard.

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by Balticfox

Groan.... That's what I hate about the mentality of sport card collectors these days. Non-sport card collecting is much better balanced or sensible in that regard.

Oh, please, give me a break; that is such nonsense. It's the same mentality, just cheaper. You ever try to sell base sets from modern cards, like the Skybox Star Trek sets? Or Pokemon? Costs more to ship than they sell for. Pure junk wax. Nonsports collectors chase the insert cards and throw away the rest just like the baseball collectors do, and they contest good cards with the same passion, just at a much lower cost.

[Balticfox]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Oh, please, give me a break....

Breaks? From me? Come on. You should know better than that.

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

You ever try to sell base sets from modern cards...? Nonsports collectors chase the insert cards and throw away the rest just like the baseball collectors do....

But you were talking about a few of the cards from the base set being worth nearly as much as or even more than the rest of the base cards combined. You weren't talking about the insert/chase cards:

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

For some sets, you can. I bought a large collection of junk wax sets, ended up with maybe 100 cards from it. 1990 Score, for example, the Bo Jackson BB/FB card is worth as much as the rest of the set. Pull the Jacksons and a few of the rookies (Thomas, Schilling, Sanders, etc.) and big stars (Griffey, Ryan, Bonds, etc.) and junk the rest.

There's no equivalent in non-sport sets of one base card being worth as much as all the other cards in the set combined. (Until of course the very recent emergence of foolishness around the Batman "rookie" card from 1966.)

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

It's the same mentality, just cheaper.... Nonsports collectors chase the insert cards and throw away the rest just like the baseball collectors do, and they contest good cards with the same passion, just at a much lower cost.

Granted. But in the real world a "much lower cost" makes all the difference in the world!

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

You ever try to sell base sets from modern cards, like the Skybox Star Trek sets? Or Pokemon? Costs more to ship than they sell for. Pure junk wax.

Never. But that's why I said "these days". I'm all about vintage which to me is 35 years old or more. And when it comes to vintage non-sports cards, there is rarely much of a premium accorded to certain cards from any particular set.

[Exhibitman]

Really, rarely any premium:

1932 US Caramel McKinley
Marquis de Lorne
Any SP Wacky Package like Ratz Crackers
1977 Star Wars C3PO "Goldenrod"
1959 Fleer 3 Stooges #1
Any N or T card of George Washington or Thomas Edison
T70 signing of the declaration of independence
1883 Pratt Oil Statue of Liberty trade card
I collect William Sherman's N cards and they are always at a premium to other generals in the same sets.
1979 Warner Bros Prince, Bob Marley sell at 100x what Wire or M or Foghat fetches.
The N76 Lincoln in a PSA 6 went for over $13,000 last week. Any other five-figure sales in that set? Four-figure sales??

I could go on and on listing cards with large relative premiums to others in the same sets.

Your precious nonsports is collected by the same sorts of people who are here: humans. No differences in behavior, just magnitude.