SUBJECT: BEWARE Steve Verkman, Keith Vari, Leland’s, Clean Sweep & Paragon auctions

[G1911]

Upon deep reflection, I now realize I was wrong. A reasonable man must, it seems so obvious now, believe any and every claim made against a company and never look at evidence to see if it is true. When there is a dispute about a contract or a bill or a list of items, it is akin to denying the holocaust to look at the document in question. Shaping my opinions around evidence, as I used to do, is much inferior to knee-jerk whining about whatever opinion people I'm butthurt about from completely unrelated long ago threads posted. Evidence, the most basic parts of western logic, seeing if things are actually true, these are the real problems. I learn so much from our wise men here.

Hopefully the enlightened wise men who reject the concept of using an evidentiary basis as reasonable are never accused of anything. By their principles, everyone would have to just believe it is true without any evidence at all.

[gonefishin]

Wow - I have absolutely nothing to add about the thread topic, BUT, I will say that I've enjoyed reading all the posts!

I'm especially interested because the originator has only posted twice, and rejoined Net54 not to add something positive about our hobby, but complain about how they were treated on a business deal! Absolutely crazy.

To originator, I'm sorry for your medical issues and monetary problems associated with them and hope for your recovery.

For the parties in the AH's, I'm sorry that you have (in some small way) been insulted, accused and humiliated in a public forum.

The best-case scenario would have been for all parties to work these things out civilly or legally if necessary.

This thread has taken a life of its own, and I can continue to look forward to all the drama that will follow in the next few days and then hopefully disappear.

Now that I've interrupted, please continue with all the insults, conspiracy theories and all else that one can think of surrounding the "Golden Ticket Contract" and mud slinging. Remember "No Quarter" because everyone is absolutely correct with evert post they make.

[judsonhamlin]

Late to the party, but it seems like this is a good situation to throw out Hitchens’ razor - and I think it applies to both sides on this one:

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.

On one side, you have someone who, by accounts posted here, is an experienced, educated collector who came here with delayed regrets and allegations of deceitful practices by long-standing auction professionals. On the other side, a denial of said deceit, albeit through a third-party, but without further clarification beyond a contract that looks like it was drafted by a first year law student (who would’ve gotten a crap grade on it).

Looks like none of the parties to this s-show care to further elaborate.