1966 Topps 6th Series/Semi-Hi's

[Cliff Bowman]

3x Wes Covington has an Indian/Phillie above him, there are two possible ones left, Sam McDowell and John O'Donoghue. The miscut matched up with O'Donoghue and is definitely not McDowell so that puts Covington under O'Donoghue.

[deweyinthehall]

I did a quick eBay check today and came up with this - do these counts dovetail with your experience? Where do we feel comfortable drawing a line between the 44 3x and the 33 4x? Theoretically the break point on this list is between Stuart at #44 (141 count) and Wyatt at #45 (145 count). Oddly, the right edge cards show 2 over 200 (including the 6th series checklist, also printed with series 5) and 5 with below 100 (including the 7th series checklist, the numbers of which should be augmented by its appearance in series 7 - artificially low due to heavy usage and disposal back in 1966?)

EDWARDS 45
BLEFARY 47
SKINNER 49
MCDOWELL 53
BUNKER 60
COLEMAN 61
BRESSOUD 61
CARDENAL 64
HOWARD 66
WOOD 67
BEARNARTH 68
ROZNOVSKY 70
ATHLETICS TEAM 71
MOELLER 72
RICHARDSON 72
GIANTS ROOKIES 72
FOX 73
JIMENEZ 75
PHILLIES TEAM 76
CARREON 77
COVINGTON 84
SCHOFIELD 85
OLIVA 86
7TH CHECKLIST 86 *
FRIEND 86
CUBS ROOKIES 87
PODRES 90
WOODESHICK 91
BUFORD 92
YANKEES ROOKIES 98
BAILEY 102
BRAVES ROOKIES 105
HARGAN 108
RED SOX ROOKIES 109
MCDANIEL 112
ELLSWORTH 115
RODGERS 119
HATTON 121
BANKS 127
NUXHALL 132
JOHNSON 136
KLINE 138
CANNIZZARO 139
STUART 141
WYATT 145
LOLICH 152
LEE 153
LATMAN 154
JOHN 157
PIRATES ROOKIES 159
GONZALEZ 165
WYNN 186
RADATZ 195
AARON 196
SIMMONS 202
MCAULIFFE 212
FACE 213
FERRARA 217
ROLLINS 221
BUCHEK 228
BARBER 232
GREEN 233
STANKY 239
HAMILTON 240
BRAGAN 246
LINZ 250
KLIPPSTEIN 257
AZCUE 260
MCCOOL 260
6TH CHECKLIST 263 *
BELINSKY 264
WILHELM 267
BENNETT 277
GIBBON 290
O'DONOGHUE 300
STIGMAN 315
HANNAN 373

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by deweyinthehall

I did a quick eBay check today and came up with this - do these counts dovetail with your experience? Where do we feel comfortable drawing a line between the 44 3x and the 33 4x? Hold your thoughts on that until my next post....

EDWARDS 45
BLEFARY 47
SKINNER 49
MCDOWELL 53
BUNKER 60
COLEMAN 61
BRESSOUD 61
CARDENAL 64
HOWARD 66
WOOD 67
BEARNARTH 68
ROZNOVSKY 70
ATHLETICS TEAM 71
MOELLER 72
RICHARDSON 72
GIANTS ROOKIES 72
FOX 73
JIMENEZ 75
PHILLIES TEAM 76
CARREON 77
COVINGTON 84
SCHOFIELD 85
OLIVA 86
7TH CHECKLIST 86 *
FRIEND 86
CUBS ROOKIES 87
PODRES 90
WOODESHICK 91
BUFORD 92
YANKEES ROOKIES 98
BAILEY 102
BRAVES ROOKIES 105
HARGAN 108
RED SOX ROOKIES 109
MCDANIEL 112
ELLSWORTH 115
RODGERS 119
HATTON 121
BANKS 127
NUXHALL 132
JOHNSON 136
KLINE 138
CANNIZZARO 139
STUART 141
WYATT 145
LOLICH 152
LEE 153
LATMAN 154
JOHN 157
PIRATES ROOKIES 159
GONZALEZ 165
WYNN 186
RADATZ 195
AARON 196
SIMMONS 202
MCAULIFFE 212
FACE 213
FERRARA 217
ROLLINS 221
BUCHEK 228
BARBER 232
GREEN 233
STANKY 239
HAMILTON 240
BRAGAN 246
LINZ 250
KLIPPSTEIN 257
AZCUE 260
MCCOOL 260
6TH CHECKLIST 263 *
BELINSKY 264
WILHELM 267
BENNETT 277
GIBBON 290
O'DONOGHUE 300
STIGMAN 315
HANNAN 373

Pirates Rookies IS NOT right, I think it is probably the smallest quantity of any card in the series.

[Cliff Bowman]

The one hang up I am having is figuring out the three 4x cards on the last (right edge) column, Hamilton is the only one that is unquestionably a 4x.

[deweyinthehall]

I think it's Hamilton, 6th Checklist - even with inflated numbers from its 5th series print - and the 7th for the reasons I said (large amounts discarded - which would help the 6th series checklist's case as a 4x).

I am going to spend some time catching up to you tonight

[deweyinthehall]

Are you counting Ellsworth as a 4x? I think he could be a 3x...and if he were, Oliva would be a good match because of the light patch of green in that area of both Oliva's photo and the sliver showing on the Ellsworth mc.

[deweyinthehall]

On the Pirates Rookies, it's weird - doing a search on "1966 Topps Pirates Rookies 498" gets that high number, but looking through each only 22 were actually card 498 - lots of team cards and lower number rookies. Don't see the same thing with the other rookie cards. Weird. Definitely in the 3x.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by deweyinthehall

Are you counting Ellsworth as a 4x? I think he could be a 3x...and if he were, Oliva would be a good match because of the light patch of green in that area of both Oliva's photo and the sliver showing on the Ellsworth mc.

I think Ellsworth is correct as a 4x on the Nuxhall row, it is a notorious card because it shows the two year deceased Ken Hubbs on it and there is a demand for it. I do have at least one flaw on my current layout, I have a six card block of

4x ***Gibbon*** - Hannan
3x Braves Rookies -Schofield
3x **Coleman** - Red Sox Rookies

and I have nowhere to put it.

[Cliff Bowman]

Here is a better scan of the Latman miscut, it is Dick Stuart under him.

[Cliff Bowman]

Here is a better scan of the miscut Hal Woodeshick, when I blow it up it looks like a tinge of yellow, there is an open 3x slot above Dick McAuliffe.