SUBJECT: BEWARE Steve Verkman, Keith Vari, Leland�s, Clean Sweep & Paragon auctions

Leon · #1 02-05-2025, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by G1911

Auction houses are legitimate businesses that perform tasks and functions, and don't just sit there waiting for money to roll in.

Cherry-picking the collection (if true) and taking 40% of the cut is a really, really bad deal for the consignor.

No reasonable person should have signed this contract when it was presented to them, for, if nothing else, that it is more like someone's notes than an actual contract and is wildly incomplete. A consignor need not sign anything put in front of them and should not, the auction house obviously is looking out for their own financial interests, and the consignor should know to do the same for themselves and do their due diligence.

This 'contract' is so poorly phrased and done that it should be pretty easy to get out of.

An inventory list would complete the evidentiary part from the consignors end.

It would be interesting to hear how the OP's post was "not accurate", as the production of the contract seems to validate most of them.

We can further deduce its probably not a fair deal to the consignor because talk of it had to be banned to the watercooler to reduce eyes on it, which does not happen to threads that reflect well on Lelands, only those that reflect poorly (previous example: https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=276894)

You are just an ignorant asshole sometimes that has a part of a story and then you make crap up. That thread you listed was posted 8 days after my wife of 25 yrs died tragically. I wasn't dealing with Josh Evans at the time and did what I did. Like I say, every situation is different. That said, just in case you don't like it here...

G1911 · #2 02-05-2025, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Leon

You are just an ignorant asshole sometimes that has a part of a story and then you make crap up. That thread you listed was posted 8 days after my wife of 25 yrs died tragically. I wasn't dealing with Josh Evans at the time and did what I did. Like I say, every situation is different. That said, just in case you don't like it here...

Yes, I am all bad things and every insult is correct. What crap did I make up though in that post? At least 2 threads criticizing Lelands have, in provable fact, been sent to the watercooler. I said nothing about any deal you may have with Evans, much less when you had/have such dealings - that was a completely different poster in a different post in the thread.

Is there a rule that watercooler banishings cannot be brought up? Several people in the last thread and at least 2 others in this one are guilty of it too without receiving these insults or a ban.

Leon · #3 02-05-2025, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by G1911

Yes, I am all bad things and every insult is correct. What crap did I make up though in that post? At least 2 threads criticizing Lelands have, in provable fact, been sent to the watercooler. I said nothing about any deal you may have with Evans, much less when you had/have such dealings - that was a completely different poster in a different post in the thread.

Is there a rule that watercooler banishings cannot be brought up? Several people in the last thread and at least 2 others in this one are guilty of it too without receiving these insults or a ban.

I never said anything about a ban. If someone gets banned then they did something they were asked not to do or they didn't follow normal rules. You might read the rules if you want to know what is in there. They have been posted forever....

G1911 · #4 02-05-2025, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon

I never said anything about a ban. If someone gets banned then they did something they were asked not to do or they didn't follow normal rules. You might read the rules if you want to know what is in there. They have been posted forever....

Yes, I have seen them. So, what did I make up? You directly accused me of making crap up, which would be lying. Where did I do this? The documentary record supports exactly what I said, and I even linked it in my claim.

bnorth · #5 02-05-2025, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911

Yes, I have seen them. So, what did I make up? You directly accused me of making crap up, which would be lying. Where did I do this? The documentary record supports exactly what I said, and I even linked it in my claim.

How about PMing Leon instead of ruining another thread with your off topic crap.

G1911 · #6 02-05-2025, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bnorth

How about PMing Leon instead of ruining another thread with your off topic crap.

Threads banished to the watercooler for criticizing Lelands is on topic in a thread in which that very thing happens

. It was public because Leon chose to publicly and falsely accuse me of lying.

parkplace33 · #7 02-05-2025, 12:44 PM

This thread has gotten legs on other social media sites.

I do hope we get more of a statement from the people referenced.

Peter_Spaeth · #8 02-05-2025, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bnorth

How about PMing Leon instead of ruining another thread with your off topic crap.

Just let me know if you think the thread is ruined and I'll start a second one with a poll.

bnorth · #9 02-05-2025, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Just let me know if you think the thread is ruined and I'll start a second one with a poll.

Thank you Peter for the laugh. I was actually going to suggest that but didn't want to post more off topic crap. I am sure at this point there will be no more productive posts unless the OP comes back with more details. Have a great day!

Leon · #10 02-05-2025, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911

Yes, I have seen them. So, what did I make up? You directly accused me of making crap up, which would be lying. Where did I do this? The documentary record supports exactly what I said, and I even linked it in my claim.

I am not spending my day arguing with you. Please argue with others. thanks
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egri · #11 02-05-2025, 12:46 PM

I feel bad for OP, but it seems like his collection was large and unorganized, and very esoteric. I can see what was 'cherry-picking' to him being Leland's/Clean Sweep deciding much of it wasn't saleable. As for the contract, I hope there is more to it than what is being shown, because the picture in the first post looks like it was written on the back of a napkin, and the Net54 Bar Association can't even agree on what very basic tenents of it mean.

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