1966 Topps 6th Series/Semi-Hi's

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by deweyinthehall

Looking at the Radatz/Klippstein pairing - With Klippstein (or any other player with a solid black box) the lettering in the name as well as the baseball containing the card number should be visible with this much black showing, shouldn't it.

The only cards with extra black real estate are the team card, but with that blue banner, they are ruled out.

Is there any chance, do we think, that the card is cut right at the bottom of the black border surrounding a cartoon on a normal player card, or do we think it is simply cut right at the top of the lettering of the name and the ball?

If that card had a cartoon it would be visible with that much black showing.

[Cliff Bowman]

I think I figured out two more, the card to the right of Grady Hatton has a divot in the black area that matches up with Johnny Wyatt, and the card to the right of Barry Latman has two humps that matches up with Camilo Carreon. All four of the cards have 3x quantities but I have Carreon as the right edge card of a 4x row, but I am beginning to think Carreon is a 3x and not a 4x.

[deweyinthehall]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

If that card had a cartoon it would be visible with that much black showing.

I agree it looks like it has to be a solid black space, I just find it hard to believe that, being that, there is no sign of the baseball or Klippstein's name.

I placed the cards next to each other and I think I was able to cut the Klippstein off to where it shows the necessary thickness of black and yet show no hint of lettering - I also think I noticed a couple barely perceptible flaws in the black border that seemed to match, but my eyes could have been playing tricks on me.


So, it's been a while so I thought I'd summarize our progress thus far:

We have the following row sections:

Banks-McDaniel
Coleman-Red Sox Rookies
O'Donoghue-Buchek
Latman-Carreon
Ferrara-Bennett
Hatton-Wyatt
Jimenez-Phillies Team
Radatz-Klippstein-McAuliffe
Green-Linz

We have 9 total, so at least 2 are part of one of the other 7.

In terms of Columns:

#1
Aaron
Nuxhall
Fox
Moeller
Skinner
Gonzalez
Cubs Rookies (despite my earlier posts showing odd colors under an Aaron)

#10:
Buford
Latman
Azcue

#11:
Hamilton
6th Checklist
7th Checklist
Wood
Giants Rookies
Carreon
Edwards

We can identify the partial 10th column because of the Latman/Carreon horizontal pairing.

We have these partial columns linked because of other horizontal pairings:

Gibbon
Braves Rookies
Coleman

to the left of

Hannan
Schofield
Red Sox Rookies


Radatz
Rollins

to the left of

Blefary
Klippstein
Wyatt
Cannizzaro
Belinsky


Jimenez
O'Donoghue
Bennett
Johnson

to the left of

Phillies Team
Buchek
Wynn
Ferrara


We have the other partial columns:

Bunker
Lee
Richardson
Rodgers
Lolich

Yankees Rookies
Bressoud

Oliva
Simmons
Ellsworth
Howard

McDowell
Bragan

Roznovsky
Kline
Barber


The following cards still have no known vertical or horizontal matches:

Pirates Rookies
Bailey
Covington
Podres
Stuart
Face
McCool
Stanky
A's Team
Cardenal
Hargan
Wilhelm
Stigman
Woodeshick
Friend
Bearnarth


Please check my math.

[Kevvyg1026]

Bailey, 485, is below either a RS or Pirate. My initial thpught was Stigman, 512, but I'm not positive.

Also, recall that O'donoghue is below two different cards. Certainly 458, but also a Twin/Red

1966_485_Pitt-Bos.jpg

1966_501_TC_blue.jpg

[Kevvyg1026]

Covington is below either Angel/Brave and above a Chi

1966_484_miscuts.jpg

I have a H pair of 447-459 (Ellsworth-McCool initially thought to be Oliva by changed our mind. still TBD), and a vertical grouping of
515-450-489-447 (Howard-Oliva-Simmons-Ellsworth)

And Friend is below an orange card, perhaps Covington??

1966_519_TC_orange.jpg

[Kevvyg1026]

Instead of a Chicago player, it might simply be a color shift and perhaps it is Friend below Covington

[Kevvyg1026]

And this mc of Woodeshick just sold on ebay

1966_514_Woodeshoick_bottom.jpg

[Cliff Bowman]

I went back through the thread and spotted a couple that were overlooked. Grady Hatton is above the the Athletics Team card. If Dick Ellsworth is a 4x he has Bill McCool to his right, if he is a 3x he has Tony Oliva to his right. Ellsworth is one of those cards that always has quantities in the gray area for being either a 3x or a 4x. ETA I just noticed that we have Ellsworth and Oliva in the same column so it has to be McCool to the right of Ellsworth. Ellsworth probably is a 4x, it is a notorious card because it pictures Ken Hubbs so the demand for it likely keeps its' quantities down.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by Kevvyg1026

And this mc of Woodeshick just sold on ebay

Attachment 650046

I bought the Woodeshick and a miscut Barry Latman that might have Larry Bearnarth under him from the same seller on eBay, I will post better scans of both when I get them.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by Kevvyg1026

Bailey, 485, is below either a RS or Pirate. My initial thpught was Stigman, 512, but I'm not positive.

I came to the conclusion that it is Dick Stigman above Bob Bailey when comparing Stigman to the miscut.