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Old 01-31-2025, 09:28 AM
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The buyer should always get the final say.
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I’m fine with scratches cuz that thing’s getting cracked out anyway!

That said, if I was selling a used car and the buyer called me out for not disclosing a scratched up body, I can’t just go on and on about how nice the interior and the mechanics are without addressing their legit concern. For the majority of the hobby nowadays, we need to stop lying to ourselves that the product is the card. The slab is just as important, and sadly sometimes more so.
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Bingo!
Not if the buyer does not have all the information. You can't expect eBay authenticators to go to extraordinary lengths to show the buyer what issues they found that don't meet the listing's presentation.

Apparently they do sometimes offer a little explanation (maybe an image, maybe not?) of what is going on, but it's beyond their job to do anything other than match stuff up and see if it all is accurate.

You expect them to whip out their iPhone and find the perfect lighting to show everything? That's just unrealistic.

Hold the seller accountable and let them re-do things the right way. What a good learning experience it will be for them.
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Not if the buyer does not have all the information. You can't expect eBay authenticators to go to extraordinary lengths to show the buyer what issues they found that don't meet the listing's presentation.

Apparently they do sometimes offer a little explanation (maybe an image, maybe not?) of what is going on, but it's beyond their job to do anything other than match stuff up and see if it all is accurate.

You expect them to whip out their iPhone and find the perfect lighting to show everything? That's just unrealistic.

Hold the seller accountable and let them re-do things the right way. What a good learning experience it will be for them.
Regarding the part highlighted in bold...

Isn't that pretty much synonymous with the buyer having the final say?
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Regarding the part highlighted in bold...

Isn't that pretty much synonymous with the buyer having the final say?
Make them re-do it = buyer having initial say (since they know from the start)

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Not if the buyer does not have all the information. You can't expect eBay authenticators to go to extraordinary lengths to show the buyer what issues they found that don't meet the listing's presentation.

Apparently they do sometimes offer a little explanation (maybe an image, maybe not?) of what is going on, but it's beyond their job to do anything other than match stuff up and see if it all is accurate.

You expect them to whip out their iPhone and find the perfect lighting to show everything? That's just unrealistic.

Hold the seller accountable and let them re-do things the right way. What a good learning experience it will be for them.

What?

If I’m a buyer of an item and it’s about to be rejected, I would like to be told why and be able to decide if I still want the item or not.

I have been personally contacted by this program with that option. It is not always the norm but it was a significant item

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What?

If I’m a buyer of an item and it’s about to be rejected, I would like to be told why and be able to decide if I still want the item or not.

I have been personally contacted by this program with that option. It is not always the norm but it was a significant item

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You actually did not have all the information even at that point. What if you agreed to receive it and then threw a fit about how bad the crease actually was in hand? You’d be out of luck.

Why can’t we just hold sellers accountable and stop there?

They don’t need to be coddled with a participation medal and someone else handles the final negotiation on the sale with more complete accuracy, just do things right and thoroughly from the start.
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