WWG DiMaggios -- are these the same card?

[oldjudge]

Since the auctions were only four months apart and the card is both scarce and high priced, I find it odd that even if the consignor did not disclose that the card was previously in an SGC A holder that Goldin didn’t notice it. It’s not like these cards pop up every day.
Second, I am mystified as to why some people are against requiring auction houses to fully disclose all they know about a card that they believe a potential bidder would want to know. How is transparency a bad thing for the hobby?

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

Since the auctions were only four months apart and the card is both scarce and high priced, I find it odd that even if the consignor did not disclose that the card was previously in an SGC A holder that Goldin didn’t notice it. It’s not like these cards pop up every day.
Second, I am mystified as to why some people are against requiring auction houses to fully disclose all they know about a card that they believe a potential bidder would want to know. How is transparency a bad thing for the hobby?

I agree it is a valuable and rare enough card to warrant that but I don't think it is realistic to expect a house to start looking at cards that closely and then grading the graders. Either take the card in because you feel it is graded right and it is not altered and if you feel otherwise, reject the consignment and let another less ethical house list it.

I think auction houses defer to the TPG and that is because the public does not expect or want more. Most people are buying the label on the holder.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

Since the auctions were only four months apart and the card is both scarce and high priced, I find it odd that even if the consignor did not disclose that the card was previously in an SGC A holder that Goldin didn’t notice it. It’s not like these cards pop up every day.
Second, I am mystified as to why some people are against requiring auction houses to fully disclose all they know about a card that they believe a potential bidder would want to know. How is transparency a bad thing for the hobby?

Because people want to defend the auction houses they deal with, and because consignors don't want disclosures that might keep down prices.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

Second, I am mystified as to why some people are against requiring auction houses to fully disclose all they know about a card that they believe a potential bidder would want to know. How is transparency a bad thing for the hobby?

Because that might not help prices go higher. It's always the real reason people are against taking the 1-5 seconds it takes to add a disclosure. It takes basically zero time to disclose, and if it doesn't matter, then it wouldn't hurt the price at all and there's no reason to not disclose. The only reason to not disclose facts that could hurt a cards price (notice there is never an argument made by anyone to hide facts that help a cards price) is because they might hurt the price. Telling the full and complete truth doesn't always help financial interests.

[Peter_Spaeth]

As I said above,