Who are the most "over-valued" players

[packs]

What circumstances do you mean, though? Mantle made himself a legend by being an otherworldly player. I don't think that can be disputed.

You talk about his 52 Topps, but the price for his card is not really all that out of whack for the rest of the hi-series cards when you consider he is also Mickey Mantle.

Bill Dickey appears in the hi-series as a coach and you'll have to pay somewhere around $400 for even a poor conditioned example. Mantle was the biggest star of his time. It's only natural his card's price will be significantly compounded over a similar card of a coach.

[raulus]

I think the biggest circumstance with 52T is just the mystique, the allure, and the legend within the industry, and even broader nationwide culture. Throw in some stories about a barge, and it takes on a life of its own.

As we all know, price is a function of supply and demand. In this case, demand is driven by much more than just what happened on the field.

[packs]

The 52 set was also the first real flagship set and will always be one of those sets that are hobby standards, like the T206.

I don't think that's in Mantle's control though or a product of Mantle. If he wasn't a high number, for example, I think he'd be trading for a premium over Mays but how much I'm not sure.

[brunswickreeves]

The value of the 52 Topps Mantle card is not about supply (there are thousands). It’s not completely about demand (AH’s only get 20-40 bids typically). It’s more about being a hobby transcending asset with unparalleled total valuation, which grows its allure and people’s willingness to pay (A LOT) in every generation. I’ve never met or read about a collector who said in retrospect, ‘Gosh I’m glad I sold that dog’ but rather reflect, ‘Money aside, I really regret selling that.’

The 52 Topps Mantle could be perhaps at a total valuation of $350MM (taking total # of each grade from total POP reports x avg price sold for at those grades, plus $25MM est. for each PSA 10, factoring a hypothetical 15% total pop reduction from cross over). By comparison, the 1909 T206 Wagner’s total valuation for all graded cards might be approx $160MM.

With the SGC 9.5 being the highest selling sports card in history at $12.5MM, it continues to be one of the most recognized and celebrated King of Collectibles. And aside from buying one yesterday, buying one today is the next best thing.

[Balticfox]

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Originally Posted by darkhorse9

...what pre-war players generally come with a higher value than their actual accomplishments on the field.

Originally Posted by brunswickreeves

The value of the 52 Topps Mantle card is not about supply (there are thousands). It’s not completely about demand (AH’s only get 20-40 bids typically). It’s more about being a hobby transcending asset with unparalleled total valuation, which grows its allure and people’s willingness to pay (A LOT) in every generation. I’ve never met or read about a collector who said in retrospect, ‘Gosh I’m glad I sold that dog’ but rather reflect, ‘Money aside, I really regret selling that.’

The 52 Topps Mantle could be perhaps at a total valuation of $350MM (taking total # of each grade from total POP reports x avg price sold for at those grades, plus $25MM est. for each PSA 10, factoring a hypothetical 15% total pop reduction from cross over). By comparison, the 1909 T206 Wagner’s total valuation for all graded cards might be approx $160MM.

With the SGC 9.5 being the highest selling sports card in history at $12.5MM, it continues to be one of the most recognized and celebrated King of Collectibles. And aside from buying one yesterday, buying one today is the next best thing.

So then I guess Mickey Mantle would be your nominee here?