Hey, pennant guys

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by UKCardGuy

That's the one from yesterday's Memory Lane auction, right? The one from ML had 3 sets of tassels. The description had it at 37" x 13". Is that wider than the Frank Chance version?

It seemed a strong price considering that the fading.

On a separate note, I managed to win this Athletics pennant in the auction.

Nice pickup! Size? Era? Very unusual font.

[perezfan]

Nice pickup Gary... very nifty embroidered Athletics pennant. Super stylish!

To answer your question, the "Frank Chance's Cubs" version came in 2 sizes... Oversized (like the Memory Lane example) and a version that's sized about mid-way between 3/4 and full size. I have the latter, pictured below.

My thought is that the "Frank Chance" version was sold around 1910-12. When Chance subsequently left the Cubs to manage the Yankees in 1913, Repco probably removed his name from the pennant. So I would guess that the Memory Lane example was manufactured around 1913-14.

[MK]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Nice pickup Gary... very nifty embroidered Athletics pennant. Super stylish!

To answer your question, the "Frank Chance's Cubs" version came in 2 sizes... Oversized (like the Memory Lane example) and a version that's sized about mid-way between 3/4 and full size. I have the latter, pictured below.

My thought is that the "Frank Chance" version was sold around 1910-12. When Chance subsequently left the Cubs to manage the Yankees in 1913, Repco probably removed his name from the pennant. So I would guess that the Memory Lane example was manufactured around 1913-14.

That makes sense Mark. Probably not as many without his name are out there.

[UKCardGuy]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

Nice pickup! Size? Era? Very unusual font.

Thanks. It from the 1910s and is 20 inches long.

Thanks Mark for the info about the 2 RepCo Cubs pennants.

[Duluth Eskimo]

Did someone on here bid on this? There is no way this pennant is from 1938.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/296927751925

[bocca001]

Wow, that really picked up at the end. The purple is the one that just sold for $1,200+. The Red one, which is clearly much older, is on Worthpoint. My gut reaction was that the purple was much newer, but I have to admit that I gave it a long questioning look. With things like this, I also always wonder why there are not more examples if it truly is a reproduced/modern version. Why bother to make it if you are going to make so few?

[MK]

Originally Posted by bocca001

Wow, that really picked up at the end. The purple is the one that just sold for $1,200+. The Red one, which is clearly much older, is on Worthpoint. My gut reaction was that the purple was much newer, but I have to admit that I gave it a long questioning look. With things like this, I also always wonder why there are not more examples if it truly is a reproduced/modern version. Why bother to make it if you are going to make so few?

I too questioned whether the purple one was really from 1938. The final price shocked me but then I guess several people were convinced it was original and just in very good shape.

[thetahat]

Based on appearance in the pics alone, I’m on the fence. The graphic is spot on identical. With a repro you can usually see differences but not here. But the creasing is odd and it didn’t crack the paint. Most notably, the stitching on the back is unusual for a pennant that old, although it’s similar to “Epstein”. It actually resembles a Keezer as far as how it was stitched and the appearance of the tassels.

Obviously it will take a collector 0.1 seconds to know for sure upon holding it.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by thetahat

Based on appearance alone, I’m on the fence. The graphic is spot on identical. But the creasing is odd and it didn’t crack the paint. Most notably, the stitching on the back is unusual for a pennant that old, although it’s similar to “Epstein”.
Obviously it will take a collector 0.1 seconds to know for sure upon holding it.

The creasing is what screams “synthetic crap” to me. When did the Worthpoint one sell, Marc?

[thetahat]

Another significant difference is how close/far the stitching is to the edges of the spine. That suggests these were not made at the same time.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

The creasing is what screams “synthetic crap” to me. When did the Worthpoint one sell, Marc?

Having sold the authentic red one not too long ago, I can assure you that Jason is right. The red one had that super thick, lush, soft vintage felt and a much different spine. The purple one is very clearly cheap modern synthetic and is not of the era.

Not sure how or why it was replicated, but whoever did it somehow pulled off the graphics flawlessly.