Hey, pennant guys

[Domer05]

I just made these "dueling pennants" for the 2024 World Series. Read all about them on Pennant Factory, or click here:

https://pennantfactory.weebly.com/bl...-trench-mfg-co

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by Domer05

I just made these "dueling pennants" for the 2024 World Series. Read all about them on Pennant Factory, or click here:

https://pennantfactory.weebly.com/bl...-trench-mfg-co

Beautiful, Kyle! Simply beautiful. Incredibly craftsmanship.

But was the forked tip ‘55 definitely made by Trench? I think it could be but there is also evidence that points elsewhere. I have it in both colors and the felt is noticeable thinner than what they used at the time. The ‘55 scroll pennants for both teams are cloth. The lettering seems different. But I will add that the normal sized ‘57 and ‘58 version with the Yankees and Braves use the same County Stadium graphic as known Trench.

Did you get more solid evidence from your interviews with Trench employees?

[Domer05]

Originally Posted by thetahat

Beautiful, Kyle! Simply beautiful. Incredibly craftsmanship.

But was the forked tip ‘55 definitely made by Trench? I think it could be but there is also evidence that points elsewhere. I have it in both colors and the felt is noticeable thinner than what they used at the time. The ‘55 scroll pennants for both teams are cloth. The lettering seems different. But I will add that the normal sized ‘57 and ‘58 version with the Yankees and Braves use the same County Stadium graphic as known Trench.

Did you get more solid evidence from your interviews with Trench employees?

Thanks Greg. Yeah, I was pretty happy with how these turned out.

I do believe Trench made the original this was inspired by. You're correct: there's a 1957 WS dueling pennant featuring a rendering of Milwaukee County Stadium that also appeared on many known Trench stadium pennants from that era. It didn't have a fringed spine; but it's clearly by the same maker. So, for me, I think that's pretty convincing evidence Trench made all these.

Tom Storm and I never discussed the '55 dueling pennant (or my pennant, for that matter). His dad didn't buy the company until the late 1950s, so it was before his time. I am certain he would have hated it. The fringed spine would have caused him fits!

[UKCardGuy]

Originally Posted by Domer05

I just made these "dueling pennants" for the 2024 World Series. Read all about them on Pennant Factory, or click here:

https://pennantfactory.weebly.com/bl...-trench-mfg-co

Great job Kyle. I enjoyed reading the latest blog entry about the dueling pennants. On that subject, I've noticed that there's a lack of 2 team world series pennants (e.g. with both teams on the pennant) for some years.

Has anyone seen a 2-team World Series pennant for 1944, 1945, 1950, 1951, 1952, 1953, 1960, 1961? Taking 1960 as an example, I can find many examples of Yankees World Series pennants or Pirates World Series pennants but not any with both teams.

[UKCardGuy]

I came across these vintage photos today with some big a** pennants on display. Thought you guys might like to see them.

[bocca001]

Really cool, Gary. Wonder if these are the exact ones Greg had on his pool table?

Looks like the phots say Sports Specialities. Isn't that the name that goes with the concessionaire baseball logo (with the ss pattern for the ball stitches)? Or maybe that is a coincidence. Looks like the big pennants were used as displays to help sell the smaller stuff. Any other info about where the photos came from?

[UKCardGuy]

Originally Posted by bocca001

Really cool, Gary. Wonder if these are the exact ones Greg had on his pool table?

Looks like the phots say Sports Specialities. Isn't that the name that goes with the concessionaire baseball logo (with the ss pattern for the ball stitches)? Or maybe that is a coincidence. Looks like the big pennants were used as displays to help sell the smaller stuff. Any other info about where the photos came from?

I was thinking that those might be the same ones that Greg showed. I don't have any more info on the origin of the photos and I haven't had a chance to research any info from the stamps on the back yet.

[Domer05]

Those oversized pennants look like the regular size ones offered by ASCO around 1969 or so.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by Domer05

Those oversized pennants look like the regular size ones offered by ASCO around 1969 or so.

Yes, exactly. They have the 1969 MLB trademark. But these were issued for a few years after.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by bocca001

Really cool, Gary. Wonder if these are the exact ones Greg had on his pool table?

Looks like the phots say Sports Specialities. Isn't that the name that goes with the concessionaire baseball logo (with the ss pattern for the ball stitches)? Or maybe that is a coincidence. Looks like the big pennants were used as displays to help sell the smaller stuff. Any other info about where the photos came from?

Four of my six have grommets.

I’m really intrigued by these and Gary just unlocked a bit of the mystery. Amazing how scarce these are.

Also it appears that the pack of the photos read “Sports Personalities”. These are definitely large versions of the ASCOs. Unfortunately no Pilots or Brewers to pin down the year.

[UKCardGuy]

Originally Posted by thetahat

Four of my six have grommets.

Also it appears that the pack of the photos read “Sports Personalities”.

Yes, it does say Sports Personalities. I wonder if it was a dinner for local athletes?

I can make out the following info on the back of the photos

Edited Sports Personalities
27670 Groesbeck Highway
Roseville, Michigan 48066

I've found a listing for a slide that proports to be from Edited Sports Personalities (Roseville, MI) https://www.ebay.com/itm/201304051653
I've also found a site that lists postcards printed by Edited Sports Personalities https://www.cardcow.com/search3.php?...0Personalities The address on the post card reads "Groespeck Hwy" but I'm guessing it was a typo???

I think we know the company on the back of the photos. I haven't been able to find any more info about them though.

[perezfan]

Looks like the Red Sox Pennants (Lots 17 and 18) went for $4K and $5K respectively. I'm assuming those prices were before the 18% BP was applied.

So $4,720 and $5,900... pretty strong prices for an obscure Auction House!

https://auctions.ejsauction.com/auct...GNY#F474D8393C

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by UKCardGuy

Great job Kyle. I enjoyed reading the latest blog entry about the dueling pennants. On that subject, I've noticed that there's a lack of 2 team world series pennants (e.g. with both teams on the pennant) for some years.

Has anyone seen a 2-team World Series pennant for 1944, 1945, 1950, 1951, 1952, 1953, 1960, 1961? Taking 1960 as an example, I can find many examples of Yankees World Series pennants or Pirates World Series pennants but not any with both teams.

I have not. The dueling scroll WS pennants are especially cool. I think these were made by WGN? I know of 1939, 1940, 1941, and 1947 with scrolls of both rosters.