Junk era variations: let's try to confirm some elusive ones

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by jacksoncoupage

A whole lot of the people here are familiar with Dick Gilkseon's E&V guide, Bob Lemke and Rich Klein's work at SCD and Beckett (and COMC) and maintain interest in the odd variations documented in these guides and other circulating wantlists so I figured it would be interesting to attempt to confirm some of the more elusive stuff from the 80s and 90s.

I'll start. Can anyone confirm the following cards exist:

1. 1988 Sportflics Reggie Jackson 563 HRs Variation
   
2. 1989 Pro Set James Jefferson w/ Seahawks Helmet on front
   
3. 1989 Pro Set James Jefferson w/ Scouting Photo on front (shown in the 1991 Pro Set book)
   
4. 1990 Score Earl Cunningham Unedited Bat Handle Variation
   
5. 1990 Upper Deck Ben McDonald 'White Circle' Variation (not an erased card but printed without either logo)
   
6. 1990-91 Pro Set No Traded Stripe Variations (Chelios, Andreychuck, Hawerchuck, Savard, Nilan)
   
7. 1990-91 Fleer Dan Majerle "1988 Portsmouth" Variation
   
8. 1990-91 Hoops Terry Porter No NBA Logo Variation (would love to see a photo, tcdb scans have turned out to be photoshopped before so I'm still unsure of this one)
   
9. 1991 Pro Set Erik Kramer Autograph (Final Update Sets)
   
10. 1991 Score Ronnie Lott Crunch Crew 49ers Variation (shown in several 1991 hobby mags)
    
11. 1991 Score Rocket Ismail #318 (shown in several 1991 hobby mags, on checklists issued to media/dealers)
    
12. 1991 Stadium Club Chuck Knoblauch No Position on Back Variation
    
    
13. 1991 Topps Efrain Valdez 6-11-66 Birthdate Variation
    
14. 1991 Upper Deck Michael Jordan SP1 With MLB Players Logo on back
    
15. 1992 Topps Debut Todd Van Poppel Pre-Production/Promo

I'd really love to be confirm as many of these as possible. But also very eager to see what others are hoping to confirm the existence of.

Like others I question whether this card exist but I've been doing some extensive research on the 91 Topps and I think I've narrowed down when and where this card might have been in the Topps products. If what is thought to be the production numbers for the 91 Topps is accurate and my thinking is correct the odds of pulling the wrong date Valdez is 0.00721666667%.

If it does exists I'm still trying to figure out why it was corrected so much quicker than the 25 other corrections Topps made in January of 1991. I do have a theory on it but I'll have to do some more research and see if I can come up with information that will support it.

[jacksoncoupage]

Originally Posted by Pat R

Like others I question whether this card exist but I've been doing some extensive research on the 91 Topps and I think I've narrowed down when and where this card might have been in the Topps products. If what is thought to be the production numbers for the 91 Topps is accurate and my thinking is correct the odds of pulling the wrong date Valdez is 0.00721666667%.

If it does exists I'm still trying to figure out why it was corrected so much quicker than the 25 other corrections Topps made in January of 1991. I do have a theory on it but I'll have to do some more research and see if I can come up with information that will support it.

Would love to hear what you find. I know that Ken Liss was the media relations person who released the corrections list to hobby media in 1991 but I can't imagine he has any recollection of this. I'm seriously doubting it exists but if the Mantle "Hangover" card can turn up after 60+ years, anything is possible with Topps.

Originally Posted by Smanzari

1986 Topps #386 Cecil Fielder RC has a "missing border section" variation

This is a pretty common recurring print defect. I'm trying to confirm just variations that have been cataloged or circulated on lists for decades but haven't turned up for sale or in most cases, not even a pic online.

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by jacksoncoupage

Would love to hear what you find. I know that Ken Liss was the media relations person who released the corrections list to hobby media in 1991 but I can't imagine he has any recollection of this. I'm seriously doubting it exists but if the Mantle "Hangover" card can turn up after 60+ years, anything is possible with Topps.



This is a pretty common recurring print defect. I'm trying to confirm just variations that have been cataloged or circulated on lists for decades but haven't turned up for sale or in most cases, not even a pic online.

There was a list of 26 subjects that were going to be corrected in January 1991 supposedly from Ken Liss one of the corrections was the Valdez birth date. Then in February there was a list posted of 26 corrections that had been made and the Valdez birthdate was on it but also on that list and not the previous list was that "two lines of copy" were also added to the Valdez card.

[johnlenhardt]

Not junk era but elusive. Out of my price range



https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw...490.m570.l1313

[Pat R]

I noticed something else on the list of 26 corrections that Ken Liss reported Topps was making in the beginning of 1991 that supports that the Valdez wrong birth date might possibly exist.

On the list of corrections is the #780 Randy Myers card but it's not for the 15/19 loss correction it's actually a correction of 2 losses in 1990 to 6 losses in 1990 this actually makes sense and would explain where the 15 losses came from and possibly when they first corrected the 2 losses they didn't correct the 15 losses.

So if the Valdez wrong birthdate does exist there's probably a Myers with 2 losses that exists and is as scarce as the Valdez.

91 Topps correctionsSyracuse_Herald_Journal_1991_01_28_37.jpg