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Old 12-12-2024, 07:43 AM
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According the internet there are 37 Negro Leaguers inducted in the HOF in Cooperstown -- they are not separate from the other HOFers... Most of these players/mangers/executives of color were selected primarily for their accomplishments in the Negro Leagues and its' antecedents --> some of them were great before the Negro League existed -- e.g Bud Fowler and Pete Hill...
I don't know how much consideration was given to the Negro League players international accomplishments in Cuba, Puerto Rico, and Mexico etc.
Willard Brown was exceptional in the Puerto Rican League in the 1950's and
Martin Dihigo is the only player inducted into five baseball halls of fame: the American, Cuban, Mexican, Dominican, and Venezuelan Baseball Halls of Fame
This 37 does not include those who started in the Negro League and went on to star in the "major leagues" -- Jackie Robinson, Banks, Aaron, Mays etc.
I guess Monte Irvin is for his "major league" career while Willard Brown is in for his career before he played in the majors (and maybe afterwards?)
As someone accurately noted above, the Negro League Museum is not a Hall of Fame --> it's a museum. My understanding is that it does not induct or select individuals as Hall of Famers.
They have what they call the "Hall of Game", which honors more recent players, but the entire museum is basically like a Hall of Fame for the entire Negro Leagues, not just individuals.
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Cobb's record still stands for anyone who employs logic. The Negro Leagues will always be a separate entity from the Major Leagues for the very same reason. History can not be rewritten. What happened, happened.
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Cobb's record still stands for anyone who employs logic. The Negro Leagues will always be a separate entity from the Major Leagues for the very same reason. History can not be rewritten. What happened, happened.
Of course it can be rewritten. See Orwell, 1984.
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Of course it can be rewritten. See Orwell, 1984.
We're living it, my friend.

No wonder Eric Blair lived such a short life. With so many accurate visions of the future dancing around in his brain, it must have been difficult. If I recall, he was a formidable chain smoker. Guessing the guy was just a bundle of nerves.
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Cobb's record still stands for anyone who employs logic. The Negro Leagues will always be a separate entity from the Major Leagues for the very same reason. History can not be rewritten. What happened, happened.
MLB combined the records for all major leagues, including the Negro leagues. That happened. Logically, you cannot make it unhappen.

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MLB combined the records for all major leagues, including the Negro leagues. That happened. Logically, you cannot make it unhappen.

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I go by the actual truth of the matter, not some PC drivel. If anyone wishes for this fantasy to be their version of the truth, so be it. I refuse to play along.

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I go by the actual truth of the matter, not some PC drivel. If anyone wishes for this fantasy to be their version of the truth, so be it. I refuse to play along.
It's reality. As you say, it happened. It is what it is. You can accept it or complain about it, but it's not going to change anything.

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Who cares, as long as there are cards...




(Best i can do; i don't have any NL HOFer cards).
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Have lots of thoughts on the matter, but for now... a picture. Campanella is front row far left.
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