O/T - Juan Soto - 15 years/$765M with the Mets

[packs]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

He's the Zion Williamson of baseball. (but actually has done even less)

He is 21 years old. He had Tommy John at the end of 2023. What are you guys talking about? He was just signed in 2021 as an 18 year old.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by packs

He is 21 years old. He had Tommy John at the end of 2023. What are you guys talking about? He was just signed in 2021 as an 18 year old.

He's such a special talent that they used him in the post season . . .as a pinch runner? Just very odd.

[packs]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

He's such a special talent that they used him in the post season . . .as a pinch runner? Just very odd.

Boone also decided to insert Nestor Cortes into a game after he hadn't pitched for a month. I'm not sure one thing says anything about another.

Just for fun I looked at the other international prospects signed the same year Dominguez was, especially since it's been suggested he isn't the talent he was meant to be:

Dominguez was the number 2 international prospect the year the Yankees signed him:

1. Yoelqui Cespedes - currently in independent ball
2. Dominguez - major league player expected to be starting outfielder in 2025
3. Robert Puason - same age but yet to advance beyond A ball
4. Pedro Leon - 26 years old and played 7 games last season at the MLB level
5. Norge Vera - 24 years old and in A ball
6. Bayron Lora - killed somebody while driving and out of baseball
7. Luis Rodriguez - same age as Dominguez but yet to play above A ball
8. Erick Pena - same age as Dominguez but yet to play above A ball
9. Ronnier Quintero - 22 years old and out of baseball
10. Yiddi Cappe - same age as Dominguez but yet to play above A ball

I would say the Yankees signed the best player.

[jingram058]

Been thinking about this rant for quite a while. Now that Soto is the latest to walk for a colossal contract, now it seems appropriate. Couple of things:

Perhaps Soto should have consulted with Cano, another who walked away from being the toast of the Big Apple. Sure he got a lot of money. Didn't win any World Series rings in Seattle though. But if all you care about is money, who cares?

The Yankees have 27 World Series championships, and yes, the last one was quite a few years ago now. But the thing is, none of these wannabe pretenders is going to catch the Yankees in my lifetime. And maybe if The Boss was still running the Yankees' show, things would be different. Maybe Soto would still be a Yankee. Who knows? And maybe I will eat these words, but I seriously doubt the Mets will win a World Series anytime soon. They just dropped a realistic chance to buy a World Series with Soto's contract. Who can they afford to bring in around him? They already have to have a sponsor name for their ballpark.

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by jingram058

The Yankees have 27 World Series championships, and yes, the last one was quite a few years ago now. But the thing is, none of these wannabe pretenders is going to catch the Yankees in my lifetime.

So your pitch to Soto would have been "sign with us because before you were born we won 24 championships"?

Or, if the press reports are correct, "Don't sign with the Mets for 15 years, sign with us for 16, because 16 years ago we won a title."

[calvindog]

It is kind of odd that he signed with the Mets when the Yankees offered basically the same deal. He was just in the WS with the Yankees and has Judge hitting behind him.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by calvindog

It is kind of odd that he signed with the Mets when the Yankees offered basically the same deal. He was just in the WS with the Yankees and has Judge hitting behind him.

Apparently there were some subtle differences that made the Mets deal worth somewhat more even though the numbers appear to be very close.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/y...ted-than-that/

[jingram058]

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

So your pitch to Soto would have been "sign with us because before you were born we won 24 championships"?

Or, if the press reports are correct, "Don't sign with the Mets for 15 years, sign with us for 16, because 16 years ago we won a title."

My pitch would be/is nobody anywhere is worth that ridiculous amount of money. So if you sign with the Mets, who have been desperately trying to equal the Yankees in New York throughout their entire existence, great. They won't be able to put a team around you, because sooner or later, they can't afford to. Just one indication of that is corporate sponsorship for the name of the ballpark. I don't see the Yankees perspiring over him walking. I believe the Yankees are better off without yet another albatross (Stanton's insane contract). They claim they have a backup plan. We'll see.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by jingram058

My pitch would be/is nobody anywhere is worth that ridiculous amount of money. So if you sign with the Mets, who have been desperately trying to equal the Yankees in New York throughout their entire existence, great. They won't be able to put a team around you, because sooner or later, they can't afford to. Just one indication of that is corporate sponsorship for the name of the ballpark. I don't see the Yankees perspiring over him walking. I believe the Yankees are better off without yet another albatross (Stanton's insane contract). They claim they have a backup plan. We'll see.

I'm pretty sure the Citi Field naming rights were in place before the current ownership bought the team. Also, Steve Cohen is worth over $20 billion so I think he'll be ok even if he has to spend more to fill out the team around Soto.

[puckpaul]

Originally Posted by jingram058

My pitch would be/is nobody anywhere is worth that ridiculous amount of money. So if you sign with the Mets, who have been desperately trying to equal the Yankees in New York throughout their entire existence, great. They won't be able to put a team around you, because sooner or later, they can't afford to. Just one indication of that is corporate sponsorship for the name of the ballpark. I don't see the Yankees perspiring over him walking. I believe the Yankees are better off without yet another albatross (Stanton's insane contract). They claim they have a backup plan. We'll see.

You obviously dont know anything about Steve Cohen.

[timber63401]

Originally Posted by jingram058

Been thinking about this rant for quite a while. Now that Soto is the latest to walk for a colossal contract, now it seems appropriate. Couple of things:

Perhaps Soto should have consulted with Cano, another who walked away from being the toast of the Big Apple. Sure he got a lot of money. Didn't win any World Series rings in Seattle though. But if all you care about is money, who cares?

The Yankees have 27 World Series championships, and yes, the last one was quite a few years ago now. But the thing is, none of these wannabe pretenders is going to catch the Yankees in my lifetime. And maybe if The Boss was still running the Yankees' show, things would be different. Maybe Soto would still be a Yankee. Who knows? And maybe I will eat these words, but I seriously doubt the Mets will win a World Series anytime soon. They just dropped a realistic chance to buy a World Series with Soto's contract. Who can they afford to bring in around him? They already have to have a sponsor name for their ballpark.

It would blow your mind if you knew how high the percentages of MLB players don't care that much about winning WS rings. It would blow it more if you knew how many don't even really like playing baseball. Its a job to a lot of them them .Nothing more nothing less. There are they to make money and make the most they possible can. Don't blame Soto blame the teams.

[John1941]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

He's such a special talent that they used him in the post season . . .as a pinch runner? Just very odd.

As Packs said, I think that says more about Boone than Dominguez. Dominguez should have been in the starting line-up in the postseason rather than the pitiful Verdugo - Dominguez has looked good in the majors overall and he did very well in AAA this year. But Boone for whatever reason decided he'd stay loyal to Verdugo and keep Dominguez on the bench to the bitter end.

Dominguez won't make anyone forget about Mickey Mantle, but I think he'll be good.

[Howe’s Hunter]

$805 million for 15 years.

That's $53,666,666.70 a year.

In a 162 game season, that is $331, 275.72 a game.

If each game lasts two-and-a-half hours, that is $132,510.28 an hour.

Granted, there is pre-season, post season, etc., and I'm sure incentive clauses for MVP, Gold Glove, etc. But still, that is a great hourly salary.

[bmattioli]

Don't hate the player. if some owner wanted to pay you that kind of cash you'd be a fool and say no thanks..