O/T - Juan Soto - 15 years/$765M with the Mets

[oldjudge]

Makes Ohtani, who is a much better player, look cheap

[philo98]

Contract goes over $800 million with escalators.

[bk400]

As a Mets fan, I'm ambivalent. He's an asset in the batting order, but I'm not convinced he's the guy who brings us our next championship.

I'm envious of the Dodgers. When you can bring in a guy like Ohtani who clearly wants most to win rings, it's great for the franchise.

[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

Makes Ohtani, who is a much better player, look cheap

I agree Ohtani is the better player, but Soto is only 26, and Ohtani is 30.

Not that Soto’s age justifies a contract of over $700 million though.

Soto was never my favorite player, but as a Mets fan, I hope he gels with the team and helps them win a championship, even if it will be somewhat cheapened by the fact that they are outspending everyone else in what seems a somewhat reckless way.

[SyrNy1960]

Would have liked Soto to remain a Yankee, but not for that kind of money for one player. I would rather they invest that kind of money in multiple players. Heck, Yankees couldn't even win a World Series with Judge and Soto.

[SyrNy1960]

Will be interesting to see how it plays out for the Mets.

[packs]

The only contract I remember that worked out in the mega deal era is A-rod’s original mega deal. Soto is in the same general age range and I expect he will be well worth the money.

[D. Bergin]

Juan Soto JUST turned 26, has no discernible injury history, is a power hitter who Walks more then he strikes out (who else in this day and age does that?) and even though he's already been on 3 teams and may have had some bouts of immaturity in the past, seems like a steady clubhouse presence, who pretty much stays out of the limelight and minds his own business.

He's predictable, he's not streaky. Check out his career splits. He's the same home or away, and he's the same from month to month to month, throughout the season.

He's a professor of hitting and never-changing. He's the closest thing, to a sure thing in baseball, and still very young. That's why teams were foaming at the mouth to wrap him up for a long time.

and....and....and.......he's been great in the postseason.

No, he's not the marketing powerhouse that Ohtani is...and I'm not sure why fans would care if he is or not. He hits the ball hard, and he gets on base.

No, he's not a 5 tool guy like Mike Trout either. He's steady and predictable and AVAILABLE about what exactly he can give to a team in the long term, and front offices and team owners will love that about him.

He's the perfect storm. He's the closest we have to a modern day 26 year-old Ted Williams. No, Ted never won a title either, but you'd sure love to see if he might get you there in the right situation.

Now, all that said. He DID sign with the Mets. So there's just as good of a chance that within 2 years he tears a labrum, fractures many metacarpals, falls in the shower, or just so happens to run into the tallest pile of cocaine that anybody has ever seen and things just go downhill from there.

[Vintagedeputy]

He would be a sure fire HOF as a Yankee. Bad move.

[John1941]

Originally Posted by Vintagedeputy

He would be a sure fire HOF as a Yankee. Bad move.

He'd be a sure-fire HOFer if he signed with the Rockies. His team has nothing to do with his HOF chances.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

Now, all that said. He DID sign with the Mets. So there's just as good of a chance that within 2 years he tears a labrum, fractures many metacarpals, falls in the shower, or just so happens to run into the tallest pile of cocaine that anybody has ever seen and things just go downhill from there.

As a Mets fan I admit that this is a strong possibility.

[Yankees #1]

Very good hitter. His fielding is a liability and cost the Yankees games. He grew on me throughout the season as being a robin to Judges Batman. With that said that's way to much money for what he brings to a team. Ohtanis contract opened the door to these long player friendly deals.

[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

Now, all that said. He DID sign with the Mets. So there's just as good of a chance that within 2 years he tears a labrum, fractures many metacarpals, falls in the shower, or just so happens to run into the tallest pile of cocaine that anybody has ever seen and things just go downhill from there.

Let's not forget that because he is now a Met, he could get attacked by a wild boar
, lose a finger during a hedge clipping incident, be in a cab that gets sideswiped by a drunk driver, or badly injure himself while celebrating.

[Yoda]

When will we have the first $billion dollar player? We are 3/4 of the way there.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by cgjackson222

Let's not forget that because he is now a Met, he could get attacked by a wild boar
, lose a finger during a hedge clipping incident, be in a cab that gets sideswiped by a drunk driver, or badly injure himself while celebrating.

I mean, just the possibility of adding to that lore, is certainly worth $765 Million bucks.

[puckpaul]

Originally Posted by cgjackson222

I agree Ohtani is the better player, but Soto is only 26, and Ohtani is 30.

Not that Soto’s age justifies a contract of over $700 million though.

Soto was never my favorite player, but as a Mets fan, I hope he gels with the team and helps them win a championship, even if it will be somewhat cheapened by the fact that they are outspending everyone else in what seems a somewhat reckless way.

Also a Mets fan. Reckless? Steve cohen made $8bn since he bought the Mets at least. The Dodgers added Snell to that team already. The Yankees made the WS with the help of Stanton, who they overpaid and mothballed until he could contribute after many injuries. Those two made the WS. What do the Mets do, let them get all of the top players and wait five years to build the farm system better? They will do that too, and be competitive for years to come. They have been outspent for decades while having poor ownership. It’s their time. Let’s see if it helps!

[Balticfox]

Juan Soto needs to be sent down to AAA now to sharpen his game. His batting averages of .275 and .288 in the last two years tell me he's not hitting the ball where it's pitched. And his stolen base totals of only 12 and then 7 indicate he lacks hustle.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by cgjackson222

I agree Ohtani is the better player, but Soto is only 26, and Ohtani is 30.

Not that Soto’s age justifies a contract of over $700 million though.

Soto was never my favorite player, but as a Mets fan, I hope he gels with the team and helps them win a championship, even if it will be somewhat cheapened by the fact that they are outspending everyone else in what seems a somewhat reckless way.

Soto is closing in on 40 WAR at age 26 that's pretty extraordinary.

[Balticfox]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Soto is closing in on 40 WAR at age 26 that's pretty extraordinary.

Only if you assign any degree of credibility to this newly hatched WAR stat.



Incidentally, will the Mets still be on the hook for roughly $51 million per year if they cut Soto or send him down to the minors?

[drmondobueno]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

Makes Ohtani, who is a much better player, look cheap

+1