Kurt's Card Care

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by Snowman

It's been published and talked about for a long time. He's also mentioned numerous times that he uses a small amount of rubbing alcohol in his spray.



For those unaware, every card manufacturer uses rubbing alcohol to clean up stray ink marks on signed cards when they get them back from the athletes after having them sign. They literally sit there with a q-tip and a bottle of rubbing alcohol, cleaning them up one by one. The cards often come back with all sorts of marks and smudges from the athletes stacking them while the ink is still wet.

First, I doubt this is true given that I have personally seen dozens of cards come out of the pack with ink smudges on the back from the player stacking them when wet.

Second, that's irrelevant. What a manufacturer does to a card before it's packed out becomes part of production. What a person does to a card after it comes out of the pack is alteration. The manufacturer isn't altering a card pre-pack out by definition. A manufacturer cuts cards before putting them in packs. That doesn't mean a consumer can cut them and it not be alteration.

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

First, I doubt this is true

You would.

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

Second, that's irrelevant. What a manufacturer does to a card before it's packed out becomes part of production. What a person does to a card after it comes out of the pack is alteration. The manufacturer isn't altering a card pre-pack out by definition. A manufacturer cuts cards before putting them in packs. That doesn't mean a consumer can cut them and it not be alteration.

It's certainly not irrelevant to the argument that everyone opposed to card cleaning uses when they say that the reason you shouldn't use rubbing alcohol on cards is because we don't know what the long term effects are of using it. They are, of course, wrong, but that's a different discussion.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by Snowman

It's certainly not irrelevant to the argument that everyone opposed to card cleaning uses when they say that the reason you shouldn't use rubbing alcohol on cards is because we don't know what the long term effects are of using it. They are, of course, wrong, but that's a different discussion.

If "we" know both types of alcohol are ok for paper long term post a link to proof of that. Preferably from some reliable source, not some card doctors website.

[BioCRN]

Aside from what one may think of the alcohol(s) + detergent mixture, it's very obvious at this point that the "polish" is an addition/adulteration to the card.