Anyone want to chat about 1920s strip cards?

pawpawdiv9 · #1 12-01-2024, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by dbussell12

set completion of those is sweet! it must look awesome having them all together. good luck on the last one!!

Here is a thread--i posted the Big Heads and some others has some.
https://www.net54baseball.com/showth...6+unc+big+head

Spike · #2 12-01-2024, 10:58 PM

Good to see more of the 1920s strip sets on here! I've looked at a lot of sports and non-sport strip sets of that era. One company (Universal Toy & Novelty Co.) appears to be who created several, and they first focused on actors, boxers, and baseball. Later, they added US presidents and more. If you're a reader, I went after how the ACC could classify these strips, based on what Burdick wrote about W500 cards in his time and what's better-known about these cards today.

https://www.number5typecollection.co...hollywood.html

Here's one scarce strip issue I'd love to see more of, as they share the handwritten lettering style of Universal Toy, and could date to 1922-24, given their art style and ink colors. Anyone else have some in this reddish cultural style?

Mungo Hungo · #3 12-01-2024, 11:47 PM

I'd be interested in a discussion of the legitimacy of the '20s strip cards in relation to others such as T206 and 1930s gum issues.

Pre-1967 releases tend not to be discussed in those terms very often, because the major league licensing program literally did not exist. But of course we know that certain cards were issued with specific permission from the depicted players, while others were not. For example, my understanding is that the T206 cards largely were legitimate in that manner, except that the Wagner wasn't (leading to its scarcity after its withdrawal).

What is the case with the strip cards? Were any of them issued in accordance with agreements with the players?

pitburgfan · #4 12-02-2024, 08:20 AM

Love them. I spent 20 years putting together a complete W514 set. They were a cheap way to get some high-end players for much less than their mainstream cards.

ValKehl · #5 12-02-2024, 09:25 AM

I'm an avid collector of Sam Rice cards, and as I mentioned earlier, I'm partial to strip cards with ads on the backs. Here are my W514 cards of Rice, 3 of which have ads on the backs:

dbussell12 · #6 12-02-2024, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ValKehl

I'm an avid collector of Sam Rice cards, and as I mentioned earlier, I'm partial to strip cards with ads on the backs. Here are my W514 cards of Rice, 3 of which have ads on the backs:

this sam rice card is beautiful. jeez. just phenomenal design. thanks a ton for sharing. wow!

dbussell12 · #7 12-02-2024, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by pitburgfan

Love them. I spent 20 years putting together a complete W514 set. They were a cheap way to get some high-end players for much less than their mainstream cards.

you guys on here and 514! it sounds like i've gotta get in on it too. and i totally agree. i was able to get a beautiful grover cleveland alexander for a really great price. i can't complain!

dbussell12 · #8 12-02-2024, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mungo Hungo

I'd be interested in a discussion of the legitimacy of the '20s strip cards in relation to others such as T206 and 1930s gum issues.

Pre-1967 releases tend not to be discussed in those terms very often, because the major league licensing program literally did not exist. But of course we know that certain cards were issued with specific permission from the depicted players, while others were not. For example, my understanding is that the T206 cards largely were legitimate in that manner, except that the Wagner wasn't (leading to its scarcity after its withdrawal).

What is the case with the strip cards? Were any of them issued in accordance with agreements with the players?

this is a fantastic question. anyone have insight??

dbussell12 · #9 12-02-2024, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Spike

Good to see more of the 1920s strip sets on here! I've looked at a lot of sports and non-sport strip sets of that era. One company (Universal Toy & Novelty Co.) appears to be who created several, and they first focused on actors, boxers, and baseball. Later, they added US presidents and more. If you're a reader, I went after how the ACC could classify these strips, based on what Burdick wrote about W500 cards in hits time and what's better-known about these cards today.

https://www.number5typecollection.co...hollywood.html

Here's one scarce strip issue I'd love to see more of, as they share the handwritten lettering style of Universal Toy, and could date to 1922-24, given their art style and ink colors. Anyone else have some in this reddish cultural style?

really interesting spike. i really like the one on the left. it looks like it could be a design from a book!

GeoPoto · #10 12-02-2024, 11:36 AM

"that walter johnson is something else"

Here's a similar image in the W551:

dbussell12 · #11 12-02-2024, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by GeoPoto

"that walter johnson is something else"

Here's a similar image in the W551:

which one is your favorite? i give the slight edge to the first one you shared. more 3 dimensional design. can't go wrong with either one of those though. having a big train in your collection is a huge W (as in Washington!)

ricktmd · #12 12-02-2024, 12:04 PM

I sort of stumbled across 1920 W522's in a lot I purchased. Now I started collecting this set. I sometimes lose interest on the way and may sell the group I have. These action poses are cool with the solid background silhouette style. As someone else mentioned the art work on many of these sets is interesting

CobbSpikedMe · #13 12-02-2024, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ricktmd

I sort of stumbled across 1920 W522's in a lot I purchased. Now I started collecting this set. I sometimes lose interest on the way and may sell the group I have. These action poses are cool with the solid background silhouette style. As someone else mentioned the art work on many of these sets is interesting

Hi Rick. I ended up with a lot of W520s in an auction many years ago and was working on that set for a while. But with the 520's seeming to show up for sale much less often than the 522's I also lost interest after a while and sold the group I had. Here's a pic of them along with a single W522 Zach Wheat that was a placeholder until I could find a W520.

I love the colors and poses in these sets.

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