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Old 11-23-2024, 11:46 AM
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While I know practically nothing about old cigarette packs, the packs I have seen in the past that contained cards all had cellophane wrapping around the outside. Why do these not?
Same thoughts. I as well know nothing. Is the thinking here that these packs actually have cards in them?
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A couple of questions from someone who does not collect either tobacco packs or the 'Monster":
1. If the carton and presumably the packs inside were issued in 1911, maybe even late that year, wouldn't it be more probable that the packs would contain a T205 card, not T206 (if any)?
2. How was this carton "repurposed" to sell Fatima cigs? Wouldn't the store owner discard the carton when the Piedmont packs were sold rather than return it to the factory or distributor for re-use or re-purposing? If instead it was leftover at the factory and never sent out until re-labeled for Fatima, wouldn't the packs inside also be Fatima and not the Piedmont's being auctioned here?
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There was another thread on this; however, it didn't gain traction. So, I'll mention "CT Scanning" again here.

It seems to me this is precisely the type of item an owner would scan.
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There was another thread on this; however, it didn't gain traction. So, I'll mention "CT Scanning" again here.

It seems to me this is precisely the type of item an owner would scan.
I’ve heard conflicting reports on whether a scan can provide much in the way of detail. But maybe you’re just hoping to ascertain whether there are signs that a card might be inside, and not just smokes?
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There was another thread on this; however, it didn't gain traction. So, I'll mention "CT Scanning" again here.

It seems to me this is precisely the type of item an owner would scan.
I'm sure someone can dig it up, but Beckett did an article on CT scanning tobacco packs probably 25 years ago. The only thing "new" about the phenomenon is that it's being marketed to collectors now.
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How was this carton "repurposed" to sell Fatima cigs?
Hello Todd, the carton was not repurposed to sell Fatima cigarettes but instead announces that either a single pack of 20 or a pair of 10 count Fatima packs were included with the Piedmont packs. These were free to the retailer, an incentive to buy more Piedmont cigarettes or perhaps a simple thank you to the retailer during the ATC break-up.

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Thanks Joe-- I should have studied it more closely before asking, but what about my other question-- why would the packs not contain a T205 instead of a T206, assuming they held any cards at all?
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Thanks Joe-- I should have studied it more closely before asking, but what about my other question-- why would the packs not contain a T205 instead of a T206, assuming they held any cards at all?
Great question Todd, I leave this to the many T205 and T206 experts out there, those sets are outside of my wheelhouse.
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I have a distinct memory of being at the HOF when I was a kid, maybe around 10 or 11, and seeing unopened Cracker Jack boxes with scans next to them that showed the cards inside. I want to say one was a Walter Johnson still in its box. But it could have been a dream I haven’t been back.
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