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Old 11-20-2024, 09:20 AM
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Mark Fidrych.

Just saying.

No ill will meant or implied.
You can add Strasburg, Gooden, Wood, David Clyde to that list!
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You can add Strasburg, Gooden, Wood, David Clyde to that list!
Tim Lincecum had 2 CY awards by age 25, on a steep decline by age 28, and out of the game at age 32.

15.2 bWAR in his 2 CY seasons...19.9 bWAR in his career.
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Old 11-20-2024, 01:31 PM
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Let's see, if I found the card and took the Pirates offer, I would be about 110 years old when, behind home plate somewhere, the Pirates finished their 30th season. I'm in pretty good health but that's a stretch.
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I don't know if many vintage collectors realize this, but being a 1/1 card isn't that rare now. Topps literally just sold two 1/1 Paul Skenes cards yesterday. All you had to do was buy one of his Topps Now cards during the 24-hour sale and it gave you a chance to win one of those two card (plus others that were sold in limited numbers). I have no idea why the Pirates decided to pick one specific card and go all in on it. It could be that Skenes himself wants the card and went through the team to get it, but it makes no sense to pick one card of his and go for it like it's the holy grail. He had plenty of cards printed before that one.
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I have no idea why the Pirates decided to pick one specific card and go all in on it.
It's the card that has the MLB Debut patch that he wore on his jersey when he made his Major League debut. It's a new thing Topps started last year.

I'm not too crazy about the whole idea, at least in part because I have a better chance of being invited by the Yankees to throw out the first pitch when they celebrate the 10th anniversary of their 2017 playoff run than I do of pulling any MLB Debut patch cards (not specifically Skenes, but ANY player), but also because, even though the patch was created specifically with the intention of being removed without causing damage to the jersey, it's still desecration of a game-worn jersey from a player's very first game.
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Old 11-21-2024, 10:37 AM
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It's the card that has the MLB Debut patch that he wore on his jersey when he made his Major League debut. It's a new thing Topps started last year.

I'm not too crazy about the whole idea, at least in part because I have a better chance of being invited by the Yankees to throw out the first pitch when they celebrate the 10th anniversary of their 2017 playoff run than I do of pulling any MLB Debut patch cards (not specifically Skenes, but ANY player), but also because, even though the patch was created specifically with the intention of being removed without causing damage to the jersey, it's still desecration of a game-worn jersey from a player's very first game.
I could have been more specific. I knew what the card was all about and I like the idea. My question was more on the focus on one specific card. The jersey he wore that day is much more significant than a tiny patch on the jersey. He could have saved 50 baseballs from the day, plus all types of things. My question was more about why they would invest so much into a 1/1 card, when there are plenty of 1/1 Skenes cards that are much cheaper. I was also pointing out for those who don't know that there are plenty of 1/1 cards for Skenes.

As for these patch jerseys, they do it for everyone and MLB is rifling through players at a rate never before seen in history. These patches as a group won't be rare. The plan is to keep doing them, which puts hundreds of them into the market every year. If they go 10+ years, finding any patch instead of a particular one won't be difficult.
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My question was more about why they would invest so much into a 1/1 card, when there are plenty of 1/1 Skenes cards that are much cheaper.
I imagine Topps would really love to have a type of 1/1 MLB card that has the same hobby heat as a "Logoman" 1/1 NBA card.

They've tried to push the "MLB Logoman" but it doesn't hit in the MLB part of the hobby as much as the NBA counterpart.

This is just musing, though. I have no insight aside from things I see pushed by Topps and their influencers.
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