Faith in 'Upstream' Authenticators?

[homerunhitter]

In this forum (and in other collecting sites too) there are a ton of posts asking “need help with this autograph” “is this autograph real” and “your opinion on this autograph?” with Topps certified autographs, I never have to ask these questions!

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by homerunhitter

In this forum (and in other collecting sites too) there are a ton of posts asking “need help with this autograph” “is this autograph real” and “your opinion on this autograph?” with Topps certified autographs, I never have to ask these questions!

Read post #3. Not all Topps Certified Autos are authentic either. Scammers abound in this industry.

[homerunhitter]

Originally Posted by swarmee

Read post #3. Not all Topps Certified Autos are authentic either. Scammers abound in this industry.

I read it before posting. I still stand true to my comment because a Topps certified autograph is more likely to be real that one certified by PSA , Beckett, JSS etc. yes, there are some fake Topps certified cards circulating in our hobby but I feel it’s a really really low percent compared to fakes that are currently in slabs. Just my 2 cents. I could be wrong! But I feel better peace of mind with a Topps certified vs a slabbed auto.

[bowmanred]

There was a Topps base card with a forged autograph on what is presumably a fake Certified Autograph sticker available on ebay a few weeks back. People were bidding it up like crazy but Mays didn't even sign for that set lol. For some reason forgers LOVE Willie Mays and go to crazy extents to make convincing fakes. Usually they content themselves with faking the signature but with Mays they go to the trouble of forging cards and even the foil stamps that Topps used on the early certified autograph cards.

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by bowmanred

There was a Topps base card with a forged autograph on what is presumably a fake Certified Autograph sticker available on ebay a few weeks back. People were bidding it up like crazy but Mays didn't even sign for that set lol. For some reason forgers LOVE Willie Mays and go to crazy extents to make convincing fakes. Usually they content themselves with faking the signature but with Mays they go to the trouble of forging cards and even the foil stamps that Topps used on the early certified autograph cards.

They've done that on a few players, I believe Bryce Harper and Derek Jeter as well.

[swarmee]

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1600466

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1600831

[Polarboy]

Originally Posted by bowmanred

There was a Topps base card with a forged autograph on what is presumably a fake Certified Autograph sticker available on ebay a few weeks back. People were bidding it up like crazy but Mays didn't even sign for that set lol. For some reason forgers LOVE Willie Mays and go to crazy extents to make convincing fakes. Usually they content themselves with faking the signature but with Mays they go to the trouble of forging cards and even the foil stamps that Topps used on the early certified autograph cards.

I saw that one, went for more than what I bought my JSA certified mays for LOL!