eras committee candidates baseball HOF

[Kenny Cole]

Vic Harris was a tremendous ballplayer and an even better manager. He managed the Grays to first place 8 times in 11 seasons and never had a losing record. He was sort of Joe Torre candidate. Although I think there are many more deserving negro league players. starting with Lundy, Marcelle, Beckwith, Scales, Wright, Poles, Redding, Home Run Johnson, Oms, Rap Dixon, Fats Jenkins, Nip Winters, etc. But Harris was the best manager, hands down, and deserves to be in the HOF for that alone.

[packs]

Seriously bizarre list. I just read that Vic Harris was also just voted on in 2022.

This category is supposed to be for players passed over but about if the list was voted on in the last 5 years. What has changed in terms of their candidacy in that short time?

[G1911]

If you put the same names over and over and over and over on a small ballot with a small discussion group voting, you’ll eventually get those names voted in.

[Johnny630]

Steve Garvey would be my pick

[Peter_Spaeth]

Is there a source that this is in fact the ballot? I am not finding one, and I am reading pretty definitively Allen for example is not eligible for another year.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Is there a source that this is in fact the ballot? I am not finding one, and I am reading pretty definitively Allen for example is not eligible for another year.

https://baseballhall.org/news/classi...announced-2025

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

What an absolutely boring list.

[riggs336]

Boyer and Tiant would head my list. And I'm ok with the rest, although I have reservations about Garvey.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by G1911

https://baseballhall.org/news/classi...announced-2025

Ah. I guess in 2022 they restructured the era committees so the old rules about eligibility after rejection must be moot. To your point, it does seem if you put people up over and over again eventually more and more will get in.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Ah. I guess in 2022 they restructured the era committees so the old rules about eligibility after rejection must be moot. To your point, it does seem if you put people up over and over again eventually more and more will get in.

I feel like usually the ballot is quickly broadcast around the online baseball world but I’ve seen this ballot basically nowhere except the Hall’s own site.


I would vote for some of these guys, but it kind of gets ridiculous when it’s the same handful of names the selection committee wants to put in over and over and over again. This format guarantees they will pretty much all be out in eventually. It’s not like we have a shortage of candidates who merit honest consideration, and have not had 25 chances. A number of 19th century players for example I don’t think have ever seriously been considered. While I would vote for Dick Allen, just putting him on every ballot until he eventually gets selected is not a very honest or meritorious selection process. How you frame and set up votes effectively determines eventual outcomes, and that’s what they keep doing with the vet committee’s here - feed the same names to a very small group of voters until those names get picked.