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View Poll Results: Trimmed card hypothetical
Sell ASAP with disclosure 22 18.64%
Sell ASAP without disclosure 6 5.08%
Keep for now but begin to look 38 32.20%
Keep and don't look, relunctantly 7 5.93%
Keep; don't care 34 28.81%
Something else 11 9.32%
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Old 11-03-2024, 02:50 PM
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Default Trimmed card hypothetical with poll

Please answer honestly and don't fight the hypothetical. Just curious about the current state of thinking, not looking to pass judgment.

Suppose you have a card you either love, or value highly for another reason (such as the Registry). Suppose it would be fairly difficult to replace, you can't just go on ebay and buy another, or expect to find one in the next set of auctions. Suppose further that while it isn't obvious in hand, you are shown absolutely conclusive before and after evidence that it's been trimmed (or recolored). What do you do now? (Assume getting a TPG to compensate you is not a viable option, or that you already tried but failed.)

1. Sell ASAP with disclosure.
2. Sell ASAP without disclosure.
3. Keep it for now, but look for another one, and sell only if you find one.
4. Keep it because it's just not worth the effort to replace it, although your enjoyment of it will be somewhat diminished.
5. Keep it because at this point, you really don't care.
6. Something else that I didn't list.
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Old 11-03-2024, 03:22 PM
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I had a fairly recent similar situation. I got a good deal on a group of four Diamond Stars to upgrade my set. In hand, they were obviously significantly smaller than the cards in my set. There were also irregularities that led me to believe they were trimmed...slightly wavy borders, or at least it looked like that to me. I am aware that there are some irregularities on size with Diamond Stars, but four of four The seller refunded without any issue. A couple months later sent me back scans of the cards in SGC holders...graded 3s an 4s. While there is no denying the value once they were slabbed, I am just as happy I returned them as I am pretty sure they were trimmed, regardless of grader's opinion.
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Old 11-03-2024, 03:25 PM
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I accidentally bought a trimmed Waddell card from GM auctions on eBay last year, as it wasn’t disclosed, but pretty evident once in hand. I sold it back on eBay with the disclosure and lost $200, so it’ll be a shittily gotten loss for the taxes! Unfortunately I sold a bunch of silver, to fund the backs line, with no records of what I paid for it, so going to get a messy W2 from eBay this year.

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Other: return to seller or attempt with PSA under grade guarantee.
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Old 11-03-2024, 03:34 PM
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For me, I'd keep as a filler (if I had bought the card with the full realization it had been trimmed). Trimmed innocently by a kid 100 years ago vs. having been trimmed to deceive is a big difference for me.
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Old 11-03-2024, 03:51 PM
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I went with other. I was extremely sad but it looked so amazing I kept it. Then many years later it was part of a very nice group of graded cards I donated to a local museum.

I never really got into grading at first so knew almost nothing about it. I bought what was by far the best looking 83 Donruss Wade Boggs rookie graded 10 I have ever seen to this day. The darn card looked perfect and I never really thought much about it. Then about 10-15 or so years ago I heard there was trimmed cards in slabs. Sure enough when comparing it to other 83 Boggs Donruss rookies I had it was small.
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I went through this exact same situation a couple years ago with a 1900 Cope's Old Tom Morris golf card that was called out on Blowout as a Gary Moser trim job. I gave full disclosure and sold the card at a loss.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth View Post
Please answer honestly and don't fight the hypothetical. Just curious about the current state of thinking, not looking to pass judgment.

Suppose you have a card you either love, or value highly for another reason (such as the Registry). Suppose it would be fairly difficult to replace, you can't just go on ebay and buy another, or expect to find one in the next set of auctions. Suppose further that while it isn't obvious in hand, you are shown absolutely conclusive before and after evidence that it's been trimmed (or recolored). What do you do now? (Assume getting a TPG to compensate you is not a viable option, or that you already tried but failed.)

1. Sell ASAP with disclosure.
2. Sell ASAP without disclosure.
3. Keep it for now, but look for another one, and sell only if you find one.
4. Keep it because it's just not worth the effort to replace it, although your enjoyment of it will be somewhat diminished.
5. Keep it because at this point, you really don't care.
6. Something else that I didn't list.
Peter, to clarify, are you talking a graded card that was not properly graded? Or are you talking about a raw card? Or could the question be about both?
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Old 11-04-2024, 11:32 AM
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Peter, to clarify, are you talking a graded card that was not properly graded? Or are you talking about a raw card? Or could the question be about both?
Much more likely to be graded given the hypothetical that one is presented with before and after evidence, but question was not so limited.
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I'd keep it and pretend that all is well

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