Most undervalued HOFers

[G1911]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

This is one way to read what happened today, I guess. Asking you a different question than you raised is not forcing you into a new position. It's asking a question. Just like you are demanding an argument addressing your point, others have just as much right to ask the same of you. And just like you refuse to respond, we have the right not to play within your parameters. This whole thing is because you think you're in charge of a message board discussion.

You absolutely have the right not to argue the claim I made. And I have the right to stick with my actual opinion and not change it to be what you want to argue instead. But you have been insulting me all day for my claim. Read the transcript. You don't have to play, but if you're going to insult me over and over again because of my claim while refusing to actually make an argument against it, that's really weird and not rational. You chose to play when you lost control and went emotionally angry. It is not unreasonable of me to expect people upset over my claim to have a logical argument against my claim.

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by G1911

You absolutely have the right not to argue the claim I made. And I have the right to stick with my actual opinion and not change it to be what you want to argue instead. But you have been insulting me all day for my claim. Read the transcript. You don't have to play, but if you're going to insult me over and over again because of my claim while refusing to actually make an argument against it, that's really weird and not rational. You chose to play when you lost control and went emotionally angry. It is not unreasonable of me to expect people upset over my claim to have a logical argument against my claim.

Huh? I haven't insulted you for your claim. I disagree with your reliance on some metrics I don't care for, but I didn't insult you for it. The only insults I've made were regarding your crappy attitude. In fact, I willingly concede those metrics show a similar value between the two as those metrics define value.

As I've said before, yet you ignore, I am not emotionally invested in your claim at all. I'm a fan nor collector of either. You are the emotional one here.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

Huh? I haven't insulted you for your claim. I disagree with your reliance on some metrics I don't care for, but I didn't insult you for it. The only insults I've made were regarding your crappy attitude.

Okay. I am too stupid to do math or logic, but that has nothing to do with the math or logic involved herein and is disconnected from it. You actually mean attitude when you do this. Gotcha.



After ~200 posts of tantrums about my claim without a single actual argument made against it, is anyone going to posit one? No?

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by G1911

Okay. I am too stupid to do math or logic, but that has nothing to do with the math or logic involved herein and is disconnected from it. You actually mean attitude when you do this. Gotcha.







After ~200 posts of tantrums about my claim without a single actual argument made against it, is anyone going to posit one? No?

For someone who refuses to be pushed into making different claims than you made, you sure put a lot of words in my mouth.

The only tantrum I see is yours. You made a claim several people disagreed with and got your panties in a bunch demanding people argue with you about it.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

For someone who refuses to be pushed into making different claims than you made, you sure put a lot of words in my mouth.

The only tantrum I see is yours.

Do you have an actual argument or counter claim yet?

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by G1911

Do you have an actual argument or counter claim yet?

The same one I made that you refuse to respond to: that I don't give two craps about career value metrics, but I'll take Ryan over Perry 7 days a week and twice in Sunday if I'm picking a team on the playground. You are welcome to argue about career metrics with the wall, since you want to so badly.

Still waiting for this mysterious list of insults I made about your claim...

[G1911]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

The same one I made that you refuse to respond to: that I don't give two craps about career value metrics, but I'll take Ryan over Perry 7 days a week and twice in Sunday if I'm picking a team on the playground. You are welcome to argue about career metrics with the wall, since you want to so badly.

Okay. After ~200 posts, does anyone have an actual argument against my claim or are we all done here gents to move on to the next claim?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

The same one I made that you refuse to respond to: that I don't give two craps about career value metrics, but I'll take Ryan over Perry 7 days a week and twice in Sunday if I'm picking a team on the playground. You are welcome to argue about career metrics with the wall, since you want to so badly.

Still waiting for this mysterious list of insults I made about your claim...

For what purpose are you picking the team? To win one game? For a season? The next 10 years? Are you picking him at his peak? At the average of his 5 year peak? At a level that would be representative of his overall career? Your hypo doesn't mean anything unless you define your terms? 1973 Ryan? 1993 Ryan? Somewhere in between?

[G1911]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

Still waiting for this mysterious list of insults I made about your claim...

I don't understand why you say you don't care and yet keep trying to have a personal beef, even after conceding you can't find any argument against my claim. If you don't care, then move on. If you do care, than make a reasonable argument . I don't get why you are so upset over a claim you can't even counter. Why do you so badly want me to debate something else with you?

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

You use the word "math" a lot. I'm not sure you know what it means.

What math would we be talking about if not the math of my claim? Its pretty obvious.

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

Your understanding of math is amazing compared to your understanding of logic. (Hint: it's not good).

What logic if not the logic of my arguments and statements in this thread? If it's about another topic, then go argue in that other topic.