Most undervalued HOFers

[Kutcher55]

The argument is not without merit. I only wish you had chosen someone who wasn’t a (self professed) blatant cheater who actually took pride in his cheating. The man does not belong in the HOF not that I consider myself much of a moral arbiter.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Kutcher55

The argument is not without merit. I only wish you had chosen someone who wasn’t a (self professed) blatant cheater who actually took pride in his cheating. The man does not belong in the HOF not that I consider myself much of a moral arbiter.

Sincere question, was there ever a serious movement to keep him out, or even a serious objection to him while he was active? I don't recall there being any. He won two Cy Youngs, for example, and I don't recall anyone (at least in 82) saying but but there should be an asterisk blah blah.

[Kutcher55]

He made it in the third ballot with some saying the delay was due to his various shenanigans.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Kutcher55

He made it in the third ballot with some saying the delay was due to his various shenanigans.

Maybe there would be more scrutiny and outrage today, different mentality/tolerance level? I mean it's really hard to believe he only got caught once.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Kutcher55

The argument is not without merit. I only wish you had chosen someone who wasn’t a (self professed) blatant cheater who actually took pride in his cheating. The man does not belong in the HOF not that I consider myself much of a moral arbiter.

I don't know how many of the stories are true and how much was Perry blowing smoke for attention or to keep people guessing. If he did cheat frequently I would be sympathetic to an argument that he doesn't belong in the Hall.