Most undervalued HOFers

[jingram058]

Chuck Klein.

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

Originally Posted by jingram058

Chuck Klein.

I came here to say this, but from an autograph perspective. He passed away young, was nearly non-responsive through the mail and additionally had others signing mail requests on his behalf. Being a Phillie on some truly awful teams certainly didn't help matters any. Adding to this is how little he was appreciated post-career and how it took decades for him to be inducted. It feels like he's truly forgotten about. Finding his autograph on anything decent, even a nice index card, is actually quite the challenge. He's usually encountered on multi-signed album pages which can be had for what I feel is a pittance.

Another fellow who deserves more value is Hugh Duffy. While he was with the Red Sox for so long after his playing days and was responsive to autograph requests, it seems as though he simply wasn't flooded with as much mail as other HOFers of his era who also passed in the 1950's. It's just strange to me. Another factor to consider regarding Duffy's autograph is that there is so often some sort of condition flaw; be it a smear, a bad pen, or simply an unappealing autograph due to advancements of Duffy's age. Finding a nice signature on any medium is always more difficult.

[RayBShotz]

All Pitchers.

Such an undervalued aspect of the hobby is the hitter value bias.

The pitchers are such an important part of the history of the game and one of the biggest reasons I have followed the sport all my life.
Only a very few are fairly valued.
Bu that could just be me.

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by RayBShotz

All Pitchers.

Such an undervalued aspect of the hobby is the hitter value bias.

The pitchers are such an important part of the history of the game and one of the biggest reasons I have followed the sport all my life.
Only a very few are fairly valued.
Bu that could just be me.

This.

Especially for postwar vintage. For pitchers not named Koufax or Ryan, most cards besides rookies in nice shape are unbelievably affordable. This includes:

Ford
Feller
Spahn
Marichal
Gibson
Seaver
Palmer
Perry
Carlton
Jenkins

And doubtless others I'm failing to mention.

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

Originally Posted by RayBShotz

All Pitchers.

All?! That's a preposterous, blanket statement.

Have you seen what even beat-up Leaf Paige "RCs" that aren't even really RCs have been selling for? There are countless examples, but the value of this card confounds me considering it's not even a true RC.

[Brent G.]

Originally Posted by BillyCoxDodgers3B

All?! That's a preposterous, blanket statement.

Have you seen what even beat-up Leaf Paige "RCs" that aren't even really RCs have been selling for? There are countless examples, but the value of this card confounds me considering it's not even a true RC.

With his story and so few cards, I think Satch is in a class of his own.

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by BillyCoxDodgers3B

All?! That's a preposterous, blanket statement.

Have you seen what even beat-up Leaf Paige "RCs" that aren't even really RCs have been selling for? There are countless examples, but the value of this card confounds me considering it's not even a true RC.

If you are basing the value on the fact that it's a "RC", you are missing the point. It's valued the way it is because it's (supposedly) a very short print in a tough set. How short of a print it is and how rare it actually is may be debatable, but I think the fact that it's Paige's first card in a nationally issued set may be relatively down on the list. Same with the Bob Feller in that set, which is most definitely not a RC.

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

Originally Posted by jchcollins

If you are basing the value on the fact that it's a "RC", you are missing the point. It's valued the way it is because it's (supposedly) a very short print in a tough set. How short of a print it is and how rare it actually is may be debatable, but I think the fact that it's Paige's first card in a nationally issued set may be relatively down on the list. Same with the Bob Feller in that set, which is most definitely not a RC.

I appreciate the insight and clarification. At the same time, its value assurdely still has much to do with the fact that it depicts Paige as opposed to Andy Lapihuska. Therefore, brining it back to the point that stating all (or nearly all) HOF pitchers' cards are undervalued makes no sense. Some? Sure, but the same can be said of even more non-pitchers.

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by BillyCoxDodgers3B

I appreciate the insight and clarification. At the same time, its value assurdely still has much to do with the fact that it depicts Paige as opposed to Andy Lapihuska. Therefore, brining it back to the point that stating all (or nearly all) HOF pitchers' cards are undervalued makes no sense. Some? Sure, but the same can be said of even more non-pitchers.

Yes, I doubt the hoopla would be quite the same over a common card even if truly scarce.

I don't know that "all pitchers" was meant literally. I would agree with whoever said that however in principle that for star / HOF pitchers - the value proposition is down considerably when compared to star hitters. I don't know if more hitters just than I realize can have that claim made or not, but there are certainly notable examples of both. This is a case sometimes where "sport good" or "sport popular" doesn't translate directly to "hobby popular." It's hard to imagine a player on his career much better or with more accolades than Frank Robinson - but you can still routinely get a nice 1959 Topps card of him for like 20 bucks. Defies logic.