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[G1911]

Assuming the government is 100% correct 100% of the time is the most big brother thing of all. Sometimes innocent people are convicted, and sometimes guilty people are not and frequently the crime is never charged at all.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by G1911

Assuming the government is 100% correct 100% of the time is the most big brother thing of all. Sometimes innocent people are convicted, and sometimes guilty people are not and frequently the crime is never charged at all.

The burden of proof is very high, the rules of evidence are onerous, and the defendant doesn't have to testify. That the prosecution does not convict someone does not mean they are "innocent" of the crime.

[packs]

I don’t think the burden of proof is that high. It’s supposed to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt but doubt is subjective and a highly individual emotion.

[Balticfox]

Originally Posted by packs

I don’t think the burden of proof is that high. It’s supposed to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt but doubt is subjective and a highly individual emotion.

I agree.

[steve B]

But like many words, innocent has more than one meaning which varies by the situation. I'm too lazy today to copy and paste from the dictionary.

Not guilty and innocent are different things.

examples - Both true

Friend was a juror. State did a bad job of prosecuting. Verdict not guilty.
Judge met with the jury after. Asked about the case. Every single juror was certain the accused had done what he was accused of. But that the state had not proven it even by a more lax standard than reasonable doubt. No choice but to aquit.

Worked for a car dealership. New finance manager, who I was told had been fired a couple years before for embezzeling 15K. (it was the late 80's, but really, almost not worth the trouble.) No police involved, just fired and the money taken as a loss.
He lasted a month. another 15K. Again no police, just fired.
Innocent? Hell no.
Not arrested tried or convicted? yes