Two hour interview with.... Bill Mastro

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by G1911

He likes to tell lies about the case because arguing that trimming card and selling them without disclosure is not illegal is part of his thesis for why it's okay to defraud people.

This is really it in a nutshell. Unless Travis has brain damage he’s just trying to convince himself and us that altering a card and selling it without disclosure isn’t a chargeable offense. Gee, I wonder why? I’d be careful buying a card from him after reading his bullshit.

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by calvindog

This is really it in a nutshell. Unless Travis has brain damage he’s just trying to convince himself and us that altering a card and selling it without disclosure isn’t a chargeable offense. Gee, I wonder why? I’d be careful buying a card from him after reading his bullshit.

Yes, that is my position. And while I've been very clear that I am against trimming and do not trim cards, I see nothing wrong with cleaning cards or soaking them in water, and I in fact prefer clean cards. I think you'd have a snowball's chance in hell of getting a jury to convict someone of cleaning/soaking/selling a sports card that has been and convincing them that it somehow amounts to fraud. That's where this whole discussion originally stemmed from.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Snowman

Yes, that is my position. And while I've been very clear that I am against trimming and do not trim cards, I see nothing wrong with cleaning cards or soaking them in water, and I in fact prefer clean cards. I think you'd have a snowball's chance in hell of getting a jury to convict someone of cleaning/soaking/selling a sports card that has been and convincing them that it somehow amounts to fraud. That's where this whole discussion originally stemmed from.

Well there is this https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...r=9.&article=7. Calif Business and Professions code...see 21670 and 21671. Nothing about jail time and not sure if this has ever been litigated.

[Rich Klein]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

Well there is this https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...r=9.&article=7. Calif Business and Professions code...see 21670 and 21671. Nothing about jail time and not sure if this has ever been litigated.

That law was also why you see odds posted on the unopened boxes ever since then. I know many of us don't collect packs then or now but that's another FYI which that law wanted to "fix"

Rich

[G1911]

Originally Posted by calvindog

This is really it in a nutshell. Unless Travis has brain damage he’s just trying to convince himself and us that altering a card and selling it without disclosure isn’t a chargeable offense. Gee, I wonder why? I’d be careful buying a card from him after reading his bullshit.

I think we all know why . The majority of his posts come down to this central point that it is not illegal and is fine to alter and sell cards without disclosure. He frequently gets caught telling absolute lies defending his central theme (like this crap, instead of arguing it should be acceptable and not a crime, he tells easily proven lies about provable events and primary source documents), but will never give it up. Seems pretty obvious what the motive is, when his whole identify here is about justifying criminal fraud for years and screeching at anyone against criminal fraud, especially Tiffany for having the audacity to try and do a small thing to combat that fraud.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by g1911

i think we all know why . The majority of his posts come down to this central point that it is not illegal and is fine to alter and sell cards without disclosure. He frequently gets caught telling absolute lies defending his central theme (like this crap, instead of arguing it should be acceptable and not a crime, he tells easily proven lies about provable events and primary source documents), but will never give it up. Seems pretty obvious what the motive is, when his whole identify here is about justifying criminal fraud for years and screeching at anyone against criminal fraud, especially tiffany for having the audacity to try and do a small thing to combat that fraud.

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