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Old 10-05-2024, 05:25 PM
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Default M101-1 at PSA?!

As an avid collector of the National Copper Plate and M101-1 series, been waiting for PSA to find a holder to grade them. Heritage has this Dahlen PSA graded as altered, I assume because it was trimmed enough to be holdered by them? so I have to cut them down to get PSA on them? Should I trim the Wagner rookie so I can get it “officially” graded? ;-)
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Old 10-05-2024, 05:57 PM
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Paul, let me know what you find out. I too have a Wagner, and I would like to get out of the BVG flip
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Old 10-05-2024, 06:14 PM
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PSA has never had a holder large enough for those, maybe things have changed very recently. Pop report should show if any have received numerical grades as full-size pieces. I definitely would NOT trim your Wagner to get it into a PSA holder, not sure if you were joking about that or not. I suspect that the owner of the Dahlen got it that way and did not trim it to fit inside a PSA holder.

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Old 10-05-2024, 07:54 PM
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Max interior size of 8.5” x 11” per this article:
https://www.psacard.com/articles/art...otos-documents

Still accurate according to this:
https://www.psacard.com/info/cardspsagrades
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All the opinions sold on the Baseball Magazine m114 posters are for numbers, and are trimmed.

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Old 10-11-2024, 11:48 AM
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So the solution to getting them slabbed is trimming them.

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Old 10-13-2024, 07:04 AM
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So the solution to getting them slabbed is trimming them.

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Or use Beckett
PSA & SGC apparently has no slab that large
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Old 10-15-2024, 11:12 AM
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I have done my best to work with CGC on larger items. They have the slabs big enough to holder these items and much larger ones....but they don't seem to have much of a desire to work with me. They are missing out on a large portion of the hobby by refusing to do it. I could care less for the grade honestly as I like the items slabbed because it keeps them safe.
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Old 10-15-2024, 11:42 AM
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I find it less-than-amusing that the largest, highly-profitable card grading company in the world cannot for once do something to please its' huge customer base and simply provide a new holder to slab these cards. Surely, the cost to do so must be manageable.
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Old 10-15-2024, 06:58 PM
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I find it less-than-amusing that the largest, highly-profitable card grading company in the world cannot for once do something to please its' huge customer base and simply provide a new holder to slab these cards. Surely, the cost to do so must be manageable.
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It sure would be nice and welcome. If they would i would give them lots of business that would surely justify it to them.
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I wish CSG would capitalize on these issues. They would do well to grade series that psa and Sgc do not grade.
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I wish CSG would capitalize on these issues. They would do well to grade series that psa and Sgc do not grade.
Seems like a very smart business idea for CSG to get into the Vintage Market.
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Or use Beckett
PSA & SGC apparently has no slab that large
So Beckett can do it but PSA cannot (?) WTFudge
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Old 10-19-2024, 08:35 PM
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Beckett was doing these back around 2010 when Mark Anderson and Andy Broome headed up the grading team over there. None of the other grading companies of the day had holders large enough to fit them. I could be wrong but believe that I was the first to submit M101-1’s and M101-2’s for encapsulation. Many made a mockery of the BGS holders at the time, not happening any more now, huh?
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So the solution to getting them slabbed is trimming them.

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Yup. That is the solution that has been used for decades to garner high grades on most of the vintage and modern that populate the Set Registry.
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Yup. That is the solution that has been used for decades to garner high grades on most of the vintage and modern that populate the Set Registry.
No! Really?!
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