E95 HW card? First post.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by gte930d

correct. the pinholes form "H W" . They do not go THROUGH the card.

Fair point, i'll need to get out a heavy magnifier and see how deep the holes are and how many "layers" they go through when i can hold the card in person.

If/when you have the chance to see the card in hand, use the magnifier to look closely at something else. Inspect the edges. When two cards (or parts thereof) are stuck together to form one, it's usually evident along the edges. It's easier to quickly spot than it is to quickly explain. Long story short...you'll see parts of two different pieces of card stock. There are exceptions, of course; however, you'll spot the majority of "Frankencard" fantasy creations this way.

[swarmee]

Welcome to the boards; you must have started at Georgia Tech around the same time I did, Fall of 1997.

[gte930d]

Originally Posted by swarmee

Welcome to the boards; you must have started at Georgia Tech around the same time I did, Fall of 1997.

Damn some real detectives here! Close. Summer of 97!

[gte930d]

Originally Posted by Eric72

If/when you have the chance to see the card in hand, use the magnifier to look closely at something else. Inspect the edges. When two cards (or parts thereof) are stuck together to form one, it's usually evident along the edges. It's easier to quickly spot than it is to quickly explain. Long story short...you'll see parts of two different pieces of card stock. There are exceptions, of course; however, you'll spot the majority of "Frankencard" fantasy creations this way.

the challenge here is definitely going to be the patina of the frankencard, as it was done over 80 years ago.

Can anyone give me standard thickness of e95 cards?
Going to take a micrometer over the holidays.

Does anyone think the front borders look too slim at the top and sides?\
i.e. the notebook theory....?

Do the "notebook cutouts" have a different printing dot matrix? ..i.e. the e95 cards def have a "dots" style of ink on the front for the person image.

[G1911]

I think you have the best possible scenario OP. It sure looks like a period correct front and an authentic T206 back. Rebacked of course and not some misprint but an extremely poor condition cobbled together card, but the two parts do look authentic to me. Pretty funny card, “not that valuable” is up to you but even in this state a Wagner front is not worthless.

[Beercan collector]

Perhaps this is what happens when someone is desperate to add Honus Wagner to their t206 set

[ALBB]

could be a 1 of a kind, Id hang on to it...or sell it

[judsonhamlin]

If I remember, there was a story in the hobby back in the early 80’s about a “T206 Wagner batting” that had been found - clearly a frankencard - but someone may have created a couple of these back in the 60’s or 70’s to pass off as a new T206 pose.

[gabrinus]

That is obviously one of a kind and worth millions...Jerry

[gte930d]

Originally Posted by judsonhamlin

If I remember, there was a story in the hobby back in the early 80’s about a “T206 Wagner batting” that had been found - clearly a frankencard - but someone may have created a couple of these back in the 60’s or 70’s to pass off as a new T206 pose.

That’s the weird thing here….my dad has had it at least since the very early 50’s, it came from a non collector grandfather (my great great) who obviously didn’t value them (cigar box) and from there it came from his uncle, so my great great great uncle? I can’t pretend to fathom the motivation, other than a parent appeasing a young child to fabricate something to carry around. I do that daily with my kids….

[gte930d]

Originally Posted by judsonhamlin

If I remember, there was a story in the hobby back in the early 80’s about a “T206 Wagner batting” that had been found - clearly a frankencard - but someone may have created a couple of these back in the 60’s or 70’s to pass off as a new T206 pose.

You’re sure you’re not referring to Heinie Wagner in the t206 set? He has a batting pose.

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by gte930d

You’re sure you’re not referring to Heinie Wagner in the t206 set? He has a batting pose.

They're saying that the most likely explanation is that someone wanted a Honus Wagner T206 for their set, knowing even at the time that they were crazy short-printed, and then made it themself using a Honus card with a T206 back.

There are 1910 era articles talking about how rare the Honus card was, and that little kids were clamoring for them.

[judsonhamlin]

Originally Posted by gte930d

You’re sure you’re not referring to Heinie Wagner in the t206 set? He has a batting pose.

No. I just need to find the reference in one of the older hobby books. Definitely Honus.