Hey, pennant guys

[thetahat]

Another recent acquisition. Never saw this before. The only commemorative Keezers I had seen are either Red Sox or Boston Braves related, which makes sense. This one doesn’t.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by thetahat

Another recent acquisition. Never saw this before. The only commemorative Keezers I had seen are either Red Sox or Boston Braves related, which makes sense. This one doesn’t.

That thing really pops! Great pickup. You and bocca consistently take really good pictures (which is why you should be in charge of “the book” ). I’m selling a couple of non-baseball items on ebay and finally realized my outdated iphone takes better pictures than my little Canon digital camera. I’ve posted a lot of pictures here where the Canon didn’t accurately capture the color. Orange is particularly bad and, well, you know….

Speaking of orange and Keezer, bocca’s oddball Keezer Giants is probably at the top of my most wanted list. I’m insanely jealous.

[bocca001]

Nice Pirates, Greg. This keezer, as with the minis I just found, just all seem to look well made. Seems like they hold up well over time and are never really in tatters. About the Giants... there has to be another one out there, Rob.

[Fballguy]

And then there were two...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/31585852393...mis&media=COPY

[MK]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

And then there were two...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/31585852393...mis&media=COPY

Wow! About an hour away from me. I going to try and find out more about where they got it.

[MK]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

And then there were two...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/31585852393...mis&media=COPY

I made contact with the seller who said he found it in a storage locker. Added there were a few other Cubs items but nothing of great value. Don’t know what he paid for the locker but I’m sure he did very well.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by MK

I made contact with the seller who said he found it in a storage locker. Added there were a few other Cubs items but nothing of great value. Don’t know what he paid for the locker but I’m sure he did very well.

When I quit Corporate America (or it quits me), I'm going to become a full time picker/storage unit buyer. I love the hunt almost as much as the find.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

When I quit Corporate America (or it quits me), I'm going to become a full time picker/storage unit buyer. I love the hunt almost as much as the find.

My father in law passed away about three weeks ago. He had three storage units. 100% crap....unless there's a '52 Mantle buried in there. I'll make you a good deal.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

My father in law passed away about three weeks ago. He had three storage units. 100% crap....unless there's a '52 Mantle buried in there. I'll make you a good deal.

Unsearched units only. Sorry Rob!

[UKCardGuy]

Originally Posted by MK

I made contact with the seller who said he found it in a storage locker. Added there were a few other Cubs items but nothing of great value. Don’t know what he paid for the locker but I’m sure he did very well.

Looks great. But I noticed the seller has a feedback of 1. I would have been nervous buying a $5K listing.

I'd love to spend my days exploring flea markets, garage sales and storage units. Unfortunately I'm in the wrong country. I hope one day I can get a rmont long hoad trip with my wife. I don't know what she'll think about taking the trip a big cargo van.

[bocca001]

This cool 3d pennant sold on ebay this week (not to me). It's pretty funny that you can lift up the kilt.

[Domer05]

Originally Posted by thetahat

Another recent acquisition. Never saw this before. The only commemorative Keezers I had seen are either Red Sox or Boston Braves related, which makes sense. This one doesn’t.

Wait--refresh my memory: what Boston Braves pennant was that?

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by Domer05

Wait--refresh my memory: what Boston Braves pennant was that?

Maybe “commemorative” isn’t the best word. I meant a pennant that is beyond generic, identifying a season or a championship. Keezer did WS pennants for the Red Sox in 1946 and 1967 and the Braves in 1948. And they have roster pennants for both teams, circa 1949-50 like this one.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by bocca001

This cool 3d pennant sold on ebay this week (not to me). It's pretty funny that you can lift up the kilt.

My home state. 👍

[thetahat]

Another acquisition. Full-size. Is there an older known ASG pennant? I have seen two different for 1947 but besides this, none earlier.

[UKCardGuy]

That's a great pickup. 1941 is the earliest ASG pennant that I'm aware of.

In addition to the one you've found, I've catalogued this mini pennant from 1941. There's also these other 2 that I have listed as 1940s (but no specific date).

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by UKCardGuy

That's a great pickup. 1941 is the earliest ASG pennant that I'm aware of.

In addition to the one you've found, I've catalogued this mini pennant from 1941. There's also these other 2 that I have listed as 1940s (but no specific date).

Good info, Gary. That mini is clearly from the same company (I think WGN). The two bigger ones you posted appear to be “Epstein”.

[thetahat]

Having parted ways with this some 20+ years ago - now residing with Mark - it was thrilling to finally find another.

[661fish]

One of the coolest pre war pennants ever made. Congrats Greg!

[MK]

Originally Posted by thetahat

Having parted ways with this some 20+ years ago - now residing with Mark - it was thrilling to finally find another.

Congratulations. I would love to know why it was just sitting in a storage locker. I would guess the owner didn’t know its value.

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by MK

I would love to know why it was just sitting in a storage locker. I would guess the owner didn’t know its value.

How many people would? About one in a hundred, I'd guess, or maybe one in a thousand.

[bocca001]

Really nice, Greg!

[Domer05]

The owner had to have realized it was worth something.... He went to some expense to at least frame it.

Which, depending on how long it sat in that locker, may have adequately preserved it over the past 90+ years.

[ooo-ribay]

You never know what you'll get from ebay...

Origami or some poor soul who didn't know about the "irregular size" surcharge. I used to mail pennants flat for $3.50, all day long, "back in the day."

[661fish]

For the love of all that is holy🤦How did it turn out Rob?

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by 661fish

For the love of all that is holy🤦How did it turn out Rob?

It turned out better than the seller’s feedback.

[thetahat]

Thanks guys …

[UKCardGuy]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

It turned out better than the seller’s feedback.

Did the seller send the pennant in an oversized package but decided to fold the pennant anyhow? That's insane.

[UKCardGuy]

Really pleased to add this new arrival. It looks like it's gone 10 rounds with Mike Tyson but it's still a 1938 Grommet pennant. And to top it all, it still has all it's tassels.

It was hidden away in a bulk lot of pennants that I suspect most buyers overlooked in the listing photos.

I'll be posting some of these for sale in BST if you're interested.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by UKCardGuy

Did the seller send the pennant in an oversized package but decided to fold the pennant anyhow? That's insane.

No, two different sellers.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by UKCardGuy

Really pleased to add this new arrival. It looks like it's gone 10 rounds with Mike Tyson but it's still a 1938 Grommet pennant. And to top it all, it still has all it's tassels.

It was hidden away in a bulk lot of pennants that I suspect most buyers overlooked in the listing photos.

I'll be posting some of these for sale in BST if you're interested.

That's a crazy bunch of pennants...a 1938 in with a 1993!

[ooo-ribay]

Three new pennant variations. The new ones are in the top of each picture.

Red ones: Slightly different forward F and the GIANTS is a different size.

Black ones: New one has a different size GIANTS vs. the one below it. Both have a different F vs. the bottom one. That one has yet another size GIANTS.

Burgundy ones: Forward F vs.backwards F and GIANTS is a different size.

I texted Bocca and told him I had picked these up cheap. He said "You and your ‘F’ variations." To which I told him "You and your spine color variations."

[UKCardGuy]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

That's a crazy bunch of pennants...a 1938 in with a 1993!

I agree. Some nice pennants mixed in with some junk. A small auction company that had a few lots of mixed pennants. My guess is that it was part of a house clearance. I held off on the others because I wanted to use my money to get the lot with the grommet pennant.

Of course this lot includes a 1950 Yankees AL Champions pennant even though I'd recently picked one up.

Your new Giants pennants look to be in fantastic condition.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by UKCardGuy

I agree. Some nice pennants mixed in with some junk. A small auction company that had a few lots of mixed pennants. My guess is that it was part of a house clearance. I held off on the others because I wanted to use my money to get the lot with the grommet pennant.

Of course this lot includes a 1950 Yankees AL Champions pennant even though I'd recently picked one up.

Your new Giants pennants look to be in fantastic condition.

Do you dare try a LIGHT cleaning on the grommet pennant? Not sure it would do a lot but it’s gotta be dirty.

[UKCardGuy]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

Do you dare try a LIGHT cleaning on the grommet pennant? Not sure it would do a lot but it’s gotta be dirty.

Now why did you go and put a thought like that in my head, Rob?

I think I'll resist the temptation to clean it. I think it might do more harm than good.

Speaking of grommet pennants, did anyone see this one that closed 2 weeks ago?

https://www.cleansweepauctions.com/item-831431/

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by UKCardGuy

Speaking of grommet pennants, did anyone see this one that closed 2 weeks ago?

https://www.cleansweepauctions.com/item-831431/

Imagine what it would have gone for if it had actual grommets.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by UKCardGuy

Now why did you go and put a thought like that in my head, Rob?

I think I'll resist the temptation to clean it. I think it might do more harm than good.

Speaking of grommet pennants, did anyone see this one that closed 2 weeks ago?

https://www.cleansweepauctions.com/item-831431/

Here it is with grommets. Will consign this at some point, maybe B/S/T (prefer T) no more display room for it!

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by thetahat

Here it is with grommets. Will consign this at some point, maybe B/S/T (prefer T) no more display room for it!

If you’re clearing stuff out, D**gers is a good place to start!

[rlevy]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

If you’re clearing stuff out, D**gers is a good place to start!

Rob, I think this is the first time we have ever agreed on anything.

Greg, I call dibs

Rick

[ooo-ribay]

Rick would give it a good home.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by rlevy

Rob, I think this is the first time we have ever agreed on anything.

Greg, I call dibs

Rick

Will do … will send you a DM this weekend

[UKCardGuy]

Originally Posted by thetahat

I think there are a few things that suggest a later production, albeit still very old.

1. I have seen a 1915 Phillies version. So the design of the champions pennants do span at least 20 years. They all look very much alike, which would be unlikely if they were making them each year as opposed to a one-time production honoring past champs.

2. There are at least three color variations of the 1920 Dodgers. That’s just unusual for pennants of that period. By the late 1930s companies were making same style/different colors. Browns grommet pennants of this style from the late 1930s and early 40s come in 5 or 6 different colors.

3. The 1915 Phillies is a more “modern sized” pennant, 28-29” long, and not oversized as many/most of the teens pennants were.

None of these points suggest anything certain and I’m probably about 80% confident that these were commemorative pennants made for some event. Maybe the opening of the HOF or the 1939 centennial. That’s just an educated guess.

I have seen, in this style (grommets, design, etc.)

1915 Phillies
1918 Red Sox
1919 White Sox
1920 Dodgers
1920 Indians
1933 Senators
1936 Yankees
1936 Giants

Additionally there are Cardinals (non-champs) dated 1937, 38, 39 and a 1939 Browns, all from this grommet pennant company.

Does anyone have a photo of the 1920 Indians or the 1933 Senators grommet pennants?

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by UKCardGuy

Does anyone have a photo of the 1920 Indians or the 1933 Senators grommet pennants?

Here ya go, Gary. I have also seen a 1915 Phillies and 1918 Red Sox in this style but the person who sent me the pics asked me not to share.

[UKCardGuy]

Thanks Greg

[ooo-ribay]

I didn't "like' this pennant at all. It sold for $374.

a) how do we even know it's baseball related?

b) the Giants weren't using a black and orange color scheme in 1932.

c) the NY is Yankees, not Giants.

Am I wrong?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/196735565945

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

I didn't "like' this pennant at all. It sold for $374.

a) how do we even know it's baseball related?

b) the Giants weren't using a black and orange color scheme in 1932.

c) the NY is Yankees, not Giants.

Am I wrong?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/196735565945

This one was discussed long ago (perhaps even before you joined net54). Consensus was that it is very likely NOT baseball related. Your instincts are spot-on.

[ooo-ribay]

I did like this pennant but the tassels seem a little weird. The spacing from top and bottom seems way off and the top tassels look thick and the bottom tassels thin. Maybe there's three at the top and one missing at the bottom? It brought good money. I wouldn't be surprised if one of you guys got it.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/205052528157

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

I did like this pennant but the tassels seem a little weird. The spacing from top and bottom seems way off and the top tassels look thick and the bottom tassels thin. Maybe there's three at the top and one missing at the bottom? It brought good money. I wouldn't be surprised if one of you guys got it.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/205052528157

Wasn’t me, but this was a good get. The colors are vivid and it’s almost flawless. Hard to find without cracking in the shield. Might be the most attractive vintage ASG pennant. Not unusual for this company to be a little sloppy with tassel placement. I’ve seen it on others.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by perezfan

This one was discussed long ago (perhaps even before you joined net54).

How could that be? I started the pennant thread. You mean you guys discussed pennants before I came along?

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

How could that be? I started the pennant thread. You mean you guys discussed pennants before I came along?

YES! There WAS a very substantial pennant thread before you came along. Perhaps someone can find it (who's better than me at the search function). I think of it periodically and would actually love to see it.

But when yours/this one came along, it rendered the other one irrelevant (as referenced by the utterly insane # of views )

Also just FYI, the irregular tassel placement is very typical for that '51 ASG Pennant. I've seen others just like that many times. 100% legit.