Fake Lajoie slabbed by PSA, Ebay seller: vintage_card_shop

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by TiffanyCards

Added to the Altered Card Database

Does the Altered Card Database have a section for fake cards slabbed by the TPGs?

Not being snarky, I'm genuinely curious.

[Balticfox]

Originally Posted by Eric72

Not being snarky, I'm genuinely curious.

There's no need to be apologetic in any case. A company should be accountable for its actions.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by Balticfox

There's no need to be apologetic in any case. A company should be accountable for its actions.

I wasn't being apologetic, just clarifying the fact that it was a question. Fake cards in TPG holders should be documented somewhere, yes?

Even if [insert name of TPG] deactivates the cert number, there's a good chance the slabbed card will be out there. I see the value in a central repository, with images, for all these fake cards.

The Altered Card Database is a somewhat well-known (and frequently used) hobby tool. A section for fake slabbed cards would be an added dimension of utility...in my opinion, at least.

[TiffanyCards]

Originally Posted by Eric72

Does the Altered Card Database have a section for fake cards slabbed by the TPGs?

Not being snarky, I'm genuinely curious.

I add all cards that have been suspected of being altered, faked, mislabeled, or stolen.

There is not a specific section for fakes, but you can do a search for them.


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[Eric72]

Originally Posted by TiffanyCards

I add all cards that have been suspected of being altered, faked, mislabeled, or stolen.

There is not a specific section for fakes, but you can do a search for them.


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Thanks for the reply. I appreciate it.

[StraightRaceCards]

I love seeing justice being served.

The hobby has no room for blatant scammers.

Thanks for posting the eBay link, always glad to educate myself on these.

Good reminder that just because a card is slabbed, doesn’t mean it’s authentic

[Eric72]

It appears PSA has deactivated the cert #

https://www.psacard.com/cert/12396968

[Balticfox]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

Chock one up for PSA - they got the Lajoie, M101-5, and blank back part correct on their label. They just forgot that they shouldn't be grading reprints.

Originally Posted by jingram058

Expensive cardboard = more + more fakery

Originally Posted by Leon

PSA sure knows vintage!

The more I think about it, the more obvious it is to me that the card is not a present day fake.

First of all, no fraud artist would have sealed the card so crookedly. Sloppiness of that magnitude is a PSA hallmark.

But I don't understand how/why any fraudster would have added the black line around the player's photo. This card looks to be some other shyster's knockoff of these M101-5 cards that they used to sell their own product in 1916-17 without having to pay for the cards. So copyright infringement from over a century ago. Yes, there are other examples of this phenomenon. Outfits in the Philippines and other U.S. territorial possessions were often inclined to knock off American material and release it as their own.

[jingram058]

Originally Posted by Balticfox

The more I think about it, the more obvious it is to me that the card is not a present day fake.

First of all, no fraud artist would have sealed the card so crookedly. Sloppiness of that magnitude is a PSA hallmark.

But I don't understand how/why any fraudster would have added the black line around the player's photo. This card looks to be some other shyster's knockoff of these M101-5 cards that they used to sell their own product in 1916-17 without having to pay for the cards. So copyright infringement from over a century ago. Yes, there are other examples of this phenomenon. Outfits in the Philippines and other U.S. territorial possessions were often inclined to knock off American material and release it as their own.

Completely agree with this. You should have seen the stuff for sale in Hong Kong, Singapore, Thailand and the Philippines back in the 1980s and 90s. Everything, and I mean everything, copied and for sale for pennies on the dollar.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Balticfox

But I don't understand how/why any fraudster would have added the black line around the player's photo. This card looks to be some other shyster's knockoff of these M101-5 cards that they used to sell their own product in 1916-17 without having to pay for the cards. So copyright infringement from over a century ago. Yes, there are other examples of this phenomenon. Outfits in the Philippines and other U.S. territorial possessions were often inclined to knock off American material and release it as their own.

Just in case this claim was serious - this card is just a Fritsch reprint, which was not produced for fraudulent purposes, altered by somebody else to look old. That's why the lines are how they are, matching the Fritsch copy. This is not from 1916-1917. It is not from the Philippines. It is not copyright infringement from over a century ago.