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Old 10-10-2024, 06:13 PM
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I was corresponding with someone who in a ticket expert and he felt that at a big auction house it would go for 3x to 4x more than it went for.

People might not consider it a good deal based on what they would be interested in paying for it, but if the buyer can sell if for 3x the amount they bought it for... it's a pretty good day at the office.

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Old 10-16-2024, 07:15 AM
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I love ticket stubs, but they have crashed pretty hard.
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Old 10-16-2024, 07:29 AM
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I think it’s more of a market correction. The prices of a couple of years ago were driven by a fear of missing out. I think that the market is more realistic now. That being said there are a number of tickets that will always be desired by collectors. This Mantle debut being one of them. Tickets related to Robinson, Mantle, Ruth, Gehrig, Aaron, Mays, Clemente, Koufax, and other inner circle HOFers should still be safe bets. Did you see this lot sold on eBay recently? It had one full Griffey debut in it. 40K? Crazy in my opinion and further evidence that this Mantle was under valued.
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Old 10-16-2024, 08:34 PM
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Steve, I respectfully disagree. I think tickets are as strong as ever. Yes, there's been some corrections here & there, but I follow tickets and bid on a lot of examples, and often get blown out on many of them.

This Mantle debut went under the radar, and was not properly titled.
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Old 10-18-2024, 07:08 AM
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Steve, I respectfully disagree. I think tickets are as strong as ever. Yes, there's been some corrections here & there, but I follow tickets and bid on a lot of examples, and often get blown out on many of them.

This Mantle debut went under the radar, and was not properly titled.
I respectfully disagree with your respectful disagreement. LOL.

I think tickets/stubs got an insane bounce during Covid from Darren Rovell, who tweeted daily about tickets and showed off many of his cool tickets. I think he drove some irrational exuberance in this nook of the market.
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Old 10-19-2024, 04:37 AM
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The Mantle ticket didn't go under the radar. For it's condition and being ungraded it landed about where it should have.

Once graded it'll bump it to a 18k-20k ticket.

So "IF" the buyer of it plans to slab it, and "IF" they plan to sell it they'll make a few grand, but that's the case with most tickets, slab 'em and value goes up.

If you think this is a 40-50k ticket, HIGHLY doubtful. I personally don't care about the condition of rare significant tickets but guys who spend 50k and up sure do. They'd want a better example than this one.
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Old 10-20-2024, 03:44 PM
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The Mantle ticket didn't go under the radar. For it's condition and being ungraded it landed about where it should have.

Once graded it'll bump it to a 18k-20k ticket.

So "IF" the buyer of it plans to slab it, and "IF" they plan to sell it they'll make a few grand, but that's the case with most tickets, slab 'em and value goes up.

If you think this is a 40-50k ticket, HIGHLY doubtful. I personally don't care about the condition of rare significant tickets but guys who spend 50k and up sure do. They'd want a better example than this one.
When I said under the radar, I meant due to the fact it wasn't titled properly. No mention of Mantle's debut. That's a HUGE miss for the listing.
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I respectfully disagree with your respectful disagreement. LOL.

I think tickets/stubs got an insane bounce during Covid from Darren Rovell, who tweeted daily about tickets and showed off many of his cool tickets. I think he drove some irrational exuberance in this nook of the market.
Exactly. Rovell is essentially trying to prop up the ticket market most likely due to his own self interest. Just my opinion, but his posts usually do not correspond to pricing.
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Old 10-20-2024, 10:21 AM
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Steve, I respectfully disagree. I think tickets are as strong as ever. Yes, there's been some corrections here & there, but I follow tickets and bid on a lot of examples, and often get blown out on many of them.

This Mantle debut went under the radar, and was not properly titled.

I’m not sure I agree with this statement. Ticket prices peaked a few years ago and have dropped dramatically over the past couple of years. There are a few exceptions, but overall prices have gone down a ton from the peak. Yes, they are still higher than they were pre-COVID, but most high dollar have declined a lot over the past two years.
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Old 10-19-2024, 07:55 PM
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I think it’s more of a market correction. The prices of a couple of years ago were driven by a fear of missing out. I think that the market is more realistic now. That being said there are a number of tickets that will always be desired by collectors. This Mantle debut being one of them. Tickets related to Robinson, Mantle, Ruth, Gehrig, Aaron, Mays, Clemente, Koufax, and other inner circle HOFers should still be safe bets. Did you see this lot sold on eBay recently? It had one full Griffey debut in it. 40K? Crazy in my opinion and further evidence that this Mantle was under valued.
Apparently this is the only Griffey debut full-ticket known in existence. (I'm not an expert, but that was what I was told on it)
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I heard the same. Modern tickets still scare me. I worry that there are ticket brokers out there with a tub of forgotten unsold full tickets tucked away on a shelf in the garage.
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Old 12-29-2024, 09:13 PM
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Apparently this is the only Griffey debut full-ticket known in existence. (I'm not an expert, but that was what I was told on it)
Looks like someone gave you some incorrect info.

Another one just sold at Goldin this past weekend, this one was Auto'd:

https://goldin.co/item/ken-griffey-j...JkSW5kZXgiOjN9


Ebay Unsigned 10/14/24 - $40k (buyer still has yet to get graded....the fact that they have not means they either are getting it auto'd first, or PSA slow as always)

Goldin Signed 12/28/24 - $52k
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52K?! I love Griffey and appreciate tickets and what they represent but that seems crazy to me.
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I was corresponding with someone who in a ticket expert and he felt that at a big auction house it would go for 3x to 4x more than it went for.

People might not consider it a good deal based on what they would be interested in paying for it, but if the buyer can sell if for 3x the amount they bought it for... it's a pretty good day at the office.

At the right auction, with the right bidders, and that one guy that has the funds and has to have it, the sky's the limit. Otherwise, the novelty of the stub appeals to about 1% of 1% of people. I'm sure it will come back for sale as soon as it is back and labeled at psa. The high bidder hoping that one guy probably didn't see the auction
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