Card Company Cut Signature Disasters

[Topnotchsy]

Originally Posted by Smanzari

I hear ya and would prefer not as well, but would be much better than what is presented above IMO

What is above is an absolute joke, especially given the cost of the product.

[sbfinley]

This is the most "well... someone's an idiot" autograph cut I have ever seen:

[Seven]

Disaster class examples of how terrible these cards can be. I understadn if you want to encapsulate a signed index card within a trading card. What I can't stand is when Letters/Photos are destroyed, by these Frankenstiened cards.

[RICHIEHARRIS]

What a waste! Why can't the use some common sense? Obviously whoever they have cutting and assembling aren't a collector...just punching a clock.
"Oh...It's 5:00...I'll just cut this and cram it in.... Babe Ruth...why did some candy bar company have this signed?"

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

If someone prefers to spend their money on a portion of a HOF plaque inserted into one of these abominations vs. buying an intact plaque, that tells me all I need to know about them and how little I'm willing to spend talking about the hobby with them. Consider it the neck tattoo of sports memorabilia. At least it's a good time saver.

[packs]

Is that Greenberg authentic? Looks very strange for such a common autograph.

[bowmanred]

It bothers me that they chose to use unique documents like what appears to be a signed contract. I can't imagine it was cheaper than an index card or clipping. Speaking of clippings, I wonder what happens to the cut-off parts of the autograph.

[Topnotchsy]

Originally Posted by bowmanred

It bothers me that they chose to use unique documents like what appears to be a signed contract. I can't imagine it was cheaper than an index card or clipping. Speaking of clippings, I wonder what happens to the cut-off parts of the autograph.

The Collins on a transfer document is probably the most common and cheapest place to find his signature.

[sbfinley]

Originally Posted by packs

Is that Greenberg authentic? Looks very strange for such a common autograph.

I think someone mentioned before that the Topps Dynasty cut was from a 40’s-50’s actor that eventually changed his stage name due to the baseball player.

[Brent G.]

Originally Posted by BillyCoxDodgers3B

If someone prefers to spend their money on a portion of a HOF plaque inserted into one of these abominations vs. buying an intact plaque, that tells me all I need to know about them and how little I'm willing to spend talking about the hobby with them. Consider it the neck tattoo of sports memorabilia. At least it's a good time saver.

Then what is the "face tattoo"??

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

Originally Posted by Brent G.

Then what is the "face tattoo"??

Hilarious, as I strongly considered using that for the analogy!

But it gets worse than some $20 plaque being desecrated. For "face tattoo", how about document cuts of people like Washington, Lincoln, Jefferson, or anything of that sort? A Ruth or Gehrig that was cut from a larger piece of any significance greater than an unthemed album page?

Vintage material should mostly be left alone. Again, I don't care as much if something like an historic autograph was already clipped from a document prior to being put into the insert card, but am not into destroying documents no matter how mundane they may be. If you have something like an album page signed by Pie Traynor and the ubiquitous Joe. E. Brown, I'm not losing any sleep. Same goes for Bing Crosby, who you see on baseball album pages. Bill "Bojangles" Robinson shows up with inordinate frequency as well. It makes sense to separate things like that from the ballplayers' autograph(s), as they are fairly unrelated and cater more to separate crowds than they would in multi-signed formats.

Years ago, I was authenticating a bunch of material at Upper Deck HQ for their cut cards. One item was a unique 8X10 of Rogers Hornsby in a Mets uniform. Seeing as he died the same year as the Mets' first season, there was a narrow window of opportunity for Hornsby to have signed anything to do with the team. A premium item such as an 8X10 is practically unheard of, and this one would have still ranked as the nicest example if it had lived to see the present. UD saw no problem in cutting it up. Hornsby tended to sign largely, too, so somewhere, there's a fugly ogers Hornsb insert card. So disgraceful.

To be fair, I've cut up my fair share of multi-signed album pages over the years. Some of this material found its way into insert cards. At the same time, I certainly never maimed anything of historical significance, such as a championship team piece, nor did I sell anything rendered too large to fit into the standard sized window for such insert cards. No oredcai Brows came from this direction! I couldn't destroy something which carried meaning. I've also never sold any plaques, documents or photos for such a purpose. Just things that were already cuts, or removed from multi-signed pages that had no importance that I could see. I'd rather hang on to the remainders of those pages as opposed to selling them to a company intact when they may not have any use for the rest of the signatures and knowing they would ultimately end up being scrapped.

[Topnotchsy]

Originally Posted by BillyCoxDodgers3B

Hilarious, as I strongly considered using that for the analogy!

But it gets worse than some $20 plaque being desecrated. For "face tattoo", how about document cuts of people like Washington, Lincoln, Jefferson, or anything of that sort? A Ruth or Gehrig that was cut from a larger piece of any significance greater than an unthemed album page?

Vintage material should mostly be left alone. Again, I don't care as much if something like an historic autograph was already clipped from a document prior to being put into the insert card, but am not into destroying documents no matter how mundane they may be. If you have something like an album page signed by Pie Traynor and the ubiquitous Joe. E. Brown, I'm not losing any sleep. Same goes for Bing Crosby, who you see on baseball album pages. Bill "Bojangles" Robinson shows up with inordinate frequency as well. It makes sense to separate things like that from the ballplayers' autograph(s), as they are fairly unrelated and cater more to separate crowds than they would in multi-signed formats.

Years ago, I was authenticating a bunch of material at Upper Deck HQ for their cut cards. One item was a unique 8X10 of Rogers Hornsby in a Mets uniform. Seeing as he died the same year as the Mets' first season, there was a narrow window of opportunity for Hornsby to have signed anything to do with the team. A premium item such as an 8X10 is practically unheard of, and this one would have still ranked as the nicest example if it had lived to see the present. UD saw no problem in cutting it up. Hornsby tended to sign largely, too, so somewhere, there's a fugly ogers Hornsb insert card. So disgraceful.

To be fair, I've cut up my fair share of multi-signed album pages over the years. Some of this material found its way into insert cards. At the same time, I certainly never maimed anything of historical significance, such as a championship team piece, nor did I sell anything rendered too large to fit into the standard sized window for such insert cards. No oredcai Brows came from this direction! I couldn't destroy something which carried meaning. I've also never sold any plaques, documents or photos for such a purpose. Just things that were already cuts, or removed from multi-signed pages that had no importance that I could see. I'd rather hang on to the remainders of those pages as opposed to selling them to a company intact when they may not have any use for the rest of the signatures and knowing they would ultimately end up being scrapped.

If you are open to sharing, I would love to hear what this experience was like.

[holybull]

Wow....unless that is a player named Hank Greenberger with er cut off.....because it is positively not the Hank Greenberg I know and love....lol

[GrayGhost]

Not an authentic Greenberg. Or it could be Hank Greenberg from Iowa, who has a ranch with 300 chickens,

[ronniehatesjazz]

Originally Posted by GrayGhost

Not an authentic Greenberg. Or it could be Hank Greenberg from Iowa, who has a ranch with 300 chickens,

Sad for multiple reasons, but imagine the person who opened up that $500 product, that just has one card in it btw, seeing the 1/1 and Hank Greenberg's name, getting all excited, only to pull whatever cover they have for the slow reveal to find that it's an elementary forgery. Just sad all around. However, people buying that product are likely the types to shrug their shoulders and throw it on eBay with a $5k price tag for something that is really just a $100 cut, or in this case worth nothing.