New PSA Terms & Conditions: Comp. Damages and Injunctive Relief for Card Doctoring

[Fred]

What's mentioned in post #38 and the previous post is true. How long can hobbyist turn a blind eye to all this crap. Investment type collectors will look the other way as long as possible. Question is, what is the ratio of hobbyist vs investment type collectors? I bet if a poll was run, most people would say they were "hobbyist" and not investors.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Fred

What's mentioned in post #38 and the previous post is true. How long can hobbyist turn a blind eye to all this crap. Investment type collectors will look the other way as long as possible. Question is, what is the ratio of hobbyist vs investment type collectors? I bet if a poll was run, most people would say they were "hobbyist" and not investors.

For the most part, IMO, the hobbyists are just as much a part of it.

[Carter08]

I’m not a high end collector for a few reasons, one certainly being lack of funds! My casual outsider observation on high end cards is if they are worth a ton of money beat up because they are old, rare and have a great player on them or are a key part of a tough set, that makes sense to me. If they are worth a ton of money because they aren’t that rare generally but have particularly sharp corners, that seems a bit crazy. No offense to those that can afford them but sharp vintage cards scream exacto knife to me.

[Fred]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

For the most part, IMO, the hobbyists are just as much a part of it.

Can you please elaborate.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Fred

Can you please elaborate.

I think most hobbyists like the slabs as much as investors. Hobbyists sell when they want to raise funds for something else, and having a commoditized slab is a huge advantage. Many registry types I would call hobbyists too, not investors.

[Fred]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I think most hobbyists like the slabs as much as investors. Hobbyists sell when they want to raise funds for something else, and having a commoditized slab is a huge advantage. Many registry types I would call hobbyists too, not investors.

Form a collecting perspective, hobbyist don't have much of a choice in the matter when it comes to purchasing cards. If you want something and it's slabbed, then that's the choice you get.

You nailed it. It commoditized the hobby which may not have been advantageous to hobbyists on a budget and it opened up the hobby to gross manipulation.

I'm sure a lot of hobbyist do like the slabs but it came with a cost.