Holiday Rack Packs?

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by Balticfox

Huh?! Who's Zima?

You re-opened a 5 year old thread for no reason, as far as I can tell. So you're "late to the party."

[ALR-bishop]

John---I should try to gather up all the old threads discussing these. Maybe at 5 years older the packs have gone up in value

[Balticfox]

Originally Posted by swarmee

You re-opened a 5 year old thread for no reason....

You're wrong. I had good reason. These Xmas Packs still crop up all over the place and I was wondering whether there was any new data or speculation to undermine or contradict my previous impressions.

Nor of course is any reason needed to post in a thread of any age other than interest in the topic.

Originally Posted by swarmee

So you're "late to the party."

There's no statute of limitations on posted content. Posts are pretty well there for the duration.

[ALR-bishop]

Matt— if you read through this thread and those linked in the posts I think you will know as much as anyone. Even Murphy the guy to originally sold them admitted they were cards repackaged by someone other than Topps. What has never been clear is when they were first churned out. I think most feel it was the 90s rather than the 60s or 70s. I think it is pretty clear some are still being churned out. I have seen posts by some who say they saw them in retails sores around Christmas but no solid proof has been posted to my knowledge. Nor has an exact date for their initial appearance been established beyond Murphy’s ads for them in SCD discussed in the listed threads

As I recall Murphy said the packs he originally obtained ( he never identified the seller) were from 54-63. Later they started showing up for years prior and later.

[JollyElm]

I don't think I've ever heard of someone pulling a winner of a card out of the middle of one of these abominations, so they are purposely created (and priced) to play on the hope of the unknown.

If you ever choose to buy one, the decision should be based solely on the cards that are showing. I bought one a bunch of years ago, because it had an impossible to find centered 1972 Topps #40 Bob Barton IA card on front, which was nice. Behind it? Of course, zilch.

[jmoran19]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

I don't think I've ever heard of someone pulling a winner of a card out of the middle of one of these abominations, so they are purposely created (and priced) to play on the hope of the unknown.

If you ever choose to buy one, the decision should be based solely on the cards that are showing. I bought one a bunch of years ago, because it had an impossible to find centered 1972 Topps #40 Bob Barton IA card on front, which was nice. Behind it? Of course, zilch.

These are as fake as Caitlyn Jenner’s boobies but seen one winner pulled that wasn’t showing on the top or bottom of the pack, 1960 Koufax via a YouTube video

[Balticfox]

I suspect that Youtube video was made by one of the fellows who was putting those Xmas packs together to market his product.