Probstein Magie listing

[sbfinley]

Originally Posted by topcat61

Probstien knows the difference between a fake and original.

I would guess that Rick hasn’t personally handled a card he has sold in more than a decade.

[calvindog]

Has anyone emailed him? These aren't even close.

[Beercan collector]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Has anyone emailed him? These aren't even close.

Was wondering the same thing - I’d do it but my T206 knowledge is not bulletproof as others on this site

[G1911]

Interesting bids to get it over $2,000.

[Beercan collector]

Originally Posted by G1911

Interesting bids to get it over $2,000.

Yes sir - The same bidder with 12 feedback has made most of the bids ,
From $1.54 all the way up to $2100

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Beercan collector

Yes sir - The same bidder with 12 feedback has made most of the bids ,
From $1.54 all the way up to $2100

Thankfully Probstein is a classy and reputable seller and his operation will surely both remove these obviously fake cards they've had listed for days and ban this shill bidder. Any minute now. Any moment. And if they don't, surely eBay will do something with the flag report I and others have made. Surely.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by Beercan collector

Yes sir - The same bidder with 12 feedback has made most of the bids ,
From $1.54 all the way up to $2100

Hence the name, "Shillstien". And after the obvious shill bidder wins, the item will be relisted and you'll have to go through the same shill bidder again. Ben Shiller will still be able to bid against you after he doesn't pay for a string of wins. Happens most days there. E-bay likes it and so does Rick Shillstein.

Long live shilling on ebay and long live crooked shilling "Prober"

[Rhotchkiss]

Originally Posted by Fuddjcal

and long live crooked shilling beenie boy.

Hey Chuck, good to know you are an antisemite. From this Jew - go fuck yourself, you piece of shit .

Ryan Hotchkiss

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Fuddjcal

Hence the name, "Shillstien". And after the obvious shill bidder wins, the item will be relisted and you'll have to go through the same shill bidder again. Ben Shiller will still be able to bid against you after he doesn't pay for a string of wins. Happens most days there. E-bay likes it and so does Rick Shillstein.

Long live shilling on ebay and long live crooked shilling beenie boy.

While we have a number of threads where people demand there to be racism, I can't remember a direct actual occurrence of it here. What is wrong with you?

[Tec87]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Has anyone emailed him? These aren't even close.

I did the other day on the Magie and explained what was wrong with it but have gotten no response.

[sbfinley]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Has anyone emailed him? These aren't even close.

He won't respond. Never does unless they are confidently incorrect. I stopped bothering emailing him about a decade ago after outing between 20-25 bad items over the years. His reps responded to exactly one email, when I tried to explain the card below wasn't PSA/DNA authenticated and the auto was probably bad. They responded that " the holder had not been compromised and that the auto was clearly authenticated as designated on the flip'. Funny enough, the card sold for a ridiculous sum and 6 months later was in a mid-major auction house popular on this forum. I again emailed that auction house and tried to explain the same issues. They also responded that the auto was clearly deemed authentic by PSA. It sold for even more dough. So I took it to the CU forums to hopefully educate some people. CU responded by giving me one month vacation. I gave up at that point.... My new belief system is that if you can drop four or five figures on a picture of a dude, you can take a little time to learn not to be a sucker.

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

Originally Posted by sbfinley

My new belief system is that if you can drop four or five figures on a picture of a dude, you can take a little time to learn not to be a sucker.

It's so difficult for me to fathom that there are people with lots of money and apparently some degree of interest in this hobby who will spend untold amounts on items that mere minutes of education would have told them was bad. Many of these people are obviously successes in other parts of their lives to be able to afford such material. If you are interested in any subject, then why wouldn't you learn anything about it? I would not want to be stuck in a conversation with people like that, even for a nanosecond. Not my way of thinking.

If the winner of the card in the OP is actually a legitimate bidder, they deserve to own that card. Sorry, I have no compassion for that level of ignorance. But they will be covered if it even gets that far. I'm amazed it has stayed up this long. Every aspect of this auction is infuriating.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by sbfinley

He won't respond. Never does unless they are confidently incorrect. I stopped bothering emailing him about a decade ago after outing between 20-25 bad items over the years. His reps responded to exactly one email, when I tried to explain the card below wasn't PSA/DNA authenticated and the auto was probably bad. They responded that " the holder had not been compromised and that the auto was clearly authenticated as designated on the flip'. Funny enough, the card sold for a ridiculous sum and 6 months later was in a mid-major auction house popular on this forum. I again emailed that auction house and tried to explain the same issues. They also responded that the auto was clearly deemed authentic by PSA. It sold for even more dough. So I took it to the CU forums to hopefully educate some people. CU responded by giving me one month vacation. I gave up at that point.... My new belief system is that if you can drop four or five figures on a picture of a dude, you can take a little time to learn not to be a sucker.

It's clear that the grade is not for the autograph and I'm amazed (not really) that both Leland's and Probstein would sell it. A simple review of the pop report shows that the card doesn't exist in the pop report as autographed, corroborated by the lack of autograph notation on the flip. What a joke!

As for the fake T206s, at this point I also have little empathy for the buyers. The cards jump out of the screen as fake. But this is the hobby and collectors are salivating at the prospect of getting a raw card at a cheap price.

[Eric72]

"This listing was ended by the seller on Sun, Oct 6 at 5:39 AM because there was an error in the listing."

[Fred]

Originally Posted by Eric72

"This listing was ended by the seller on Sun, Oct 6 at 5:39 AM because there was an error in the listing."

Forgot the word reprint.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by Fred

Forgot the word reprint.

Forgot?

Forgot.

Sure, we'll go with that.