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Pete Rose was a fantastic baseball man, definitely a flawed human being in his personal life.
I don't see how Manfred and MLB can currently justify keeping Pete and Joe Jackson out of the hall when they have wholeheartedly dropped to their knees and embraced gambling with vigor in today's game.
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Pete Rose was a fantastic baseball man, definitely a flawed human being in his personal life.
I don't see how Manfred and MLB can currently justify keeping Pete and Joe Jackson out of the hall when they have wholeheartedly dropped to their knees and embraced gambling with vigor in today's game.
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Pete Rose was a fantastic baseball man, definitely a flawed human being in his personal life.
I don't see how Manfred and MLB can currently justify keeping Pete and Joe Jackson out of the hall when they have wholeheartedly dropped to their knees and embraced gambling with vigor in today's game.
I agree it is inconsistent for sure. But two wrongs don't make a right. I'd love to see the gambling sponsorships gone from the game. There is nothing socially positive or redeeming about having the gambling industry as a sanctioned partner of MLB or, frankly, any sport.
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I don't see how Manfred and MLB can currently justify keeping Pete and Joe Jackson out of the hall when they have wholeheartedly dropped to their knees and embraced gambling with vigor in today's game.
But Joe Jackson was involved in actually throwing World Series games. Pete Rose on the other hand always played full out to win.
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But Joe Jackson was involved in actually throwing World Series games. Pete Rose on the other hand always played full out to win.
Joe Jackson was acquitted by a Chicago court, Landis was hired to clean up baseball and get rid of the gambling element, his decision was the right one at the time but banning Joe was throwing out the baby with the bath water, just look at his stats during the series.
Understandable decision at the time but revisionist history is all the rage right now so letting Joe and Pete in, all things considered, would be a net positive imo.
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I don't see how Manfred and MLB can currently justify keeping Pete and Joe Jackson out of the hall when they have wholeheartedly dropped to their knees and embraced gambling with vigor in today's game.
What I find most troubling, in fact maddening, is the hypocrisy. Yes, MLB was correct. Any association, any link, between pro sports and gambling threatens the integrity of the game. Case closed.

But many/most governments across North America have legalized whatever forms of gambling from which they can derive a piece of the action (but of course only those). And now given the sanction of politicians and the bureaucrats living off the taxpayers' dime, pro sports have followed suit. If Big Brother says gambling is fine, then it's now fine with pro sports leagues (provided that they can get a piece of the action of course).

But what about "the integrity of the game"? I guess that's no longer a concern so long as Big Brother and pro sports can derive their piece of the action from an activity they previously castigated. Like I say, it's the hypocrisy that's galling.

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