Theft at Philly Show

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Balticfox

The solution is for show promoters to hire visible armed security whether that be off-duty policemen or private security guards.

Does everyone saying this realize there were several uniformed police officers walking the show every day, plus conspicuous security staff as well? There's no way to cover an entire show of the size of the Philly show.

[Balticfox]

That then is probably why we've not seen gangs descend upon shows to grab-and-run as they've been doing to stores in big cities of California.

[theshowandme]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Does everyone saying this realize there were several uniformed police officers walking the show every day, plus conspicuous security staff as well? There's no way to cover an entire show of the size of the Philly show.

I noticed a larger presence myself walking around.

Curious if we see that in Chantilly

[calvindog]

I haven’t read this whole thread as it’s filled with the usual ten page diatribes, but as a rabid gun guy, you wouldn’t catch me at a show if people were carrying either open or concealed. Too many people aren’t trained properly and people would end up getting shot by accident. Whatever is at risk of being stolen at a show does not merit people walking around with guns. Hire more security but hell no to guns on the premises.

Even if you’re being robbed, it’s illegal to shoot someone in response unless the thief is pointing a gun or other deadly weapon at you. And if for some reason you pull out a gun in anger, there’s a greater chance you’ll end up being shot instead. Even while armed, I’d be way more likely to hand over my wallet then pull out a gun if someone was pointing one at me during a robbery.

[ClementeFanOh]

PeterSpaeth- the guy with 30,000 more posts than me, thinks I need a
break. The joke writes itself, does it not?

G1911- you honor yourself by continuing to insist that I "hate" you. I don't,
never even met you. My blood pressure doesn't rise a single point when I
type in response to your rhetoric. I think you know just enough to get
yourself into trouble, and retaliate with endless propaganda against those
who oppose you ("It's not a lie if you believe it" - thanks George Costanza).
Your coverup about making jokes doesn't fly, you are far too nasty and
defiant to joke around with me- it was snide cynicism. This is it for me on
this thread, simple points follow. If you can't comprehend them, you are
being deliberately obtuse:

1) The increase in higher dollar thefts at shows is real, and board members
who attend have voiced legitimate concern about lessening them.

2) There are many ways to help deter theft at shows, and some posters
have attempted discussion about them. As usual, these discussions have
been derailed. When we are able to stay on point, it's clear there is
some disagreement about these ways. The need for some change,
however, is patently obvious. Willful indifference will fail- period.

3) You can lose the crap about my advocating violence, it's pure nonsense
that even you know is nonsense. Remarkable that you can attempt to
admonish me for missing a joke, but that you are blind to your own
faults. I don't advocate violence, I don't think people need to bring
bazookas/grenades/bandoliers full of ammunition to shows. It's tired
and, worse, wrong for you to keep pushing this agenda.

4) I hope the on-point observations cause promoters/sellers/attendees
to up their game when it comes to vigilance at shows. It helps everyone,
thus it's logical to expect all parts of the process to participate.

5) I'm done reading this thread, so be advised anything else you come up
with is nothing more than typing practice.

Trent King

[Peter_Spaeth]

Note to self -- DNFTT.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by ClementeFanOh

PeterSpaeth- the guy with 30,000 more posts than me, thinks I need a
break. The joke writes itself, does it not?

G1911- you honor yourself by continuing to insist that I "hate" you. I don't,
never even met you. My blood pressure doesn't rise a single point when I
type in response to your rhetoric. I think you know just enough to get
yourself into trouble, and retaliate with endless propaganda against those
who oppose you ("It's not a lie if you believe it" - thanks George Costanza).
Your coverup about making jokes doesn't fly, you are far too nasty and
defiant to joke around with me- it was snide cynicism. This is it for me on
this thread, simple points follow. If you can't comprehend them, you are
being deliberately obtuse:

1) The increase in higher dollar thefts at shows is real, and board members
who attend have voiced legitimate concern about lessening them.

2) There are many ways to help deter theft at shows, and some posters
have attempted discussion about them. As usual, these discussions have
been derailed. When we are able to stay on point, it's clear there is
some disagreement about these ways. The need for some change,
however, is patently obvious. Willful indifference will fail- period.

3) You can lose the crap about my advocating violence, it's pure nonsense
that even you know is nonsense. Remarkable that you can attempt to
admonish me for missing a joke, but that you are blind to your own
faults. I don't advocate violence, I don't think people need to bring
bazookas/grenades/bandoliers full of ammunition to shows. It's tired
and, worse, wrong for you to keep pushing this agenda.

4) I hope the on-point observations cause promoters/sellers/attendees
to up their game when it comes to vigilance at shows. It helps everyone,
thus it's logical to expect all parts of the process to participate.

5) I'm done reading this thread, so be advised anything else you come up
with is nothing more than typing practice.

Trent King

Yes, I'm lying about an obvious dick joke as part of a cover up .

Is this guy on the spectrum? I've never encountered somebody who truly cannot comprehend the idea of what a joke is. I'm a prick but it's starting to feel like picking on a special ed kid.

You have had multiple meltdowns over non-violence, including throwing a tantrum last time because I wrote against lynch mob murdering people one disagrees with. It was pretty funny. Good luck showing off your piece at card shows to intimidate potential thieves, as you have repeatedly advocated. I pray for the safety of those around you, and for the arresting officers. See you in ~1 month for your next tantrum over somebody not wanting to pull guns or lynch people or whatever exciting insanity it is next time.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by G1911

Yes, I'm lying about an obvious dick joke as part of a cover up .

Is this guy on the spectrum? I've never encountered somebody who truly cannot comprehend the idea of what a joke is. I'm a prick but it's starting to feel like picking on a special ed kid.

You have had multiple meltdowns over non-violence, including throwing a tantrum last time because I wrote against lynch mob murdering people one disagrees with. It was pretty funny. Good luck showing off your piece at card shows to intimidate potential thieves, as you have repeatedly advocated. I pray for the safety of those around you, and for the arresting officers. See you in ~1 month for your next tantrum over somebody not wanting to pull guns or lynch people or whatever exciting insanity it is next time.

Could be something as innocuous as suggesting Kaline was Clemente's equal, or even going slightly off topic.

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Could be something as innocuous as suggesting Kaline was Clemente's equal, or even going slightly off topic.

hey, don't bring Kaline into this; it's not fair to his dozens of fans around the world.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Could be something as innocuous as suggesting Kaline was Clemente's equal, or even going slightly off topic.

The Kaline thread was a classic. It had all of the humor of his mental breakdowns but without the slight concern that he could pose a public danger.