SGC'S Aggressive Upcharges

[Balticfox]

Just say "No!" to the bastiches. That's the answer.

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by Balticfox

Just say "No!" to the bastiches. That's the answer.

Not if you want to get top $$ for the items.

[Balticfox]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Not if you want to get top $$ for the items.

Well then those top $$ are going to have to come from someone else. If you take out and show me a bunch of plastic slabs, I'll just shake my head and walk away.

But go ahead and finance SGC's business if you want. It's your choice.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by Balticfox

Well then those top $$ are going to have to come from someone else. If you take out and show me a bunch of plastic slabs, I'll just shake my head and walk away.

But go ahead and finance SGC's business if you want. It's your choice.

Preach!

The Collectors buyout has already ruined them. As predicted, it didn't take long. Rooting hard for CGC to make inroads, and cut into the others' market share.

[Brent G.]

For those of us mostly dealing in cards worth hundreds instead of thousands of dollars, SGC is pretty great (in my experience) ... but gouging people because they have really nice things is just terrible business.

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by Balticfox

Well then those top $$ are going to have to come from someone else. If you take out and show me a bunch of plastic slabs, I'll just shake my head and walk away.

But go ahead and finance SGC's business if you want. It's your choice.

Now that's both a narrow-minded and self-righteous comment. I could not care less about SGC's business, I care about my business. Grading services are tools for making money, period. My goal when I send in a card is to make it more readily fungible and more valuable for resale. If a slab helps me achieve my goals, I take it. If not, I leave it.

The times I have been upcharged, I have been just fine to pay the difference because it meant that my item was worth a lot more than I thought. The services all have guidelines posted up-front, which I have to accept when I decide to purchase the service, including price tiers. It isn't like an upcharge falls out of the sky. PSA recently hit me with a $50 upcharge because I'd inadvertently submitted an item a tier below its declared value. No complaints on my side with that.

[bigfanNY]

I posted above that SGC hadn't updated my order since 9/20 when I dropped it off. Well insted of using the website I downloaded their app and found update there. My cards are in the post Grading phase. So SGC is living up to its reputation for speedy service.. And I am hoping that I get asked for an upcharge. Because as Adam pointed out it just means I got a grade higher than my estimate and my card will benifit much more financially than the upcharge amount. Full transparency my card is a W519 Unnumbered Ruth. I estimated the value at 7k if it got a 2 or above I might get an upcharge.
J

[Fuddjcal]

double post

[Fuddjcal]

I'm more concerned about their aggressive wait times. ,
Dropped off 4 cards for reholder in Pasadena, CA on Sat Sept 7th. Must have made it back to the office by Sept 9th? 1 card was $140.00 reholder.

Still shows "received". I have about had it with these effin companies. "5-10 Business Days". LOL AGAIN with the business days that never come.

Signed,
Eddie Impatient

[rdwyer]

I was shocked to find out that 40 oversized cards would set me back $1900+!!! What a joke.

[Balticfox]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Now that's both a narrow-minded ....

Narrow-minded? In what way? Am I not allowed to make up my own mind? Even if I decide to pass on graded cards?

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

...and self-righteous comment.

Yes, righteous I am. Some of us have much to be righteous about. Jealousy though will get you nowhere.

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

I could not care less about SGC's business, I care about my business.

Hey, I can go you one better. I couldn't care less about either SGC's business or yours. I care about only about the cards themselves and by extension the hobby of collecting cards.

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Grading services are tools for making money, period.

Oh, I agree! But cards aren't just about the money to me. And that's why I reserve the right not to act as a cheerleader on their behalf.

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

My goal when I send in a card is to make it more readily fungible....

Sorry. An 8 is not an 8 is not an 8 to me. I buy the card, not the number on the label. You may call it a sense of entitlement, but I reserve the right to make up my own mind.

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

...and more valuable for resale.

You have the right to target the fungible crowd. I'm not part of that crowd though and I reserve the right to just say "No".

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

If a slab helps me achieve my goals, I take it. If not, I leave it.

Fully understandable. What I don't understand though is how/why you were somehow compelled to cheerlead for SGC's services after I encouraged collectors to just say "No!" and then labelled my own rejection of SGC's services "narrow-minded and self-righteous". I mean what's it to you? Do you have some kind of ownership interest in PSA? If not, why toot their horn? Why not just let them speak for themselves?

[Exhibitman]

BF, you can make up your own mind; everyone is entitled to collect in whatever way they want. This hobby has room for all of it. But the issue we are discussing here is not your personal philosophy of collecting: if you don't want to collect graded cards, knock yourself out. Instead, you come into a thread about grading company charging practices and crap all over the grading process itself and the people who use grading services.

Lemme clue you in, pal: not liking slabbed cards doesn't make you a more pious, pure, true collector than the guys who have a box full of slabs. There are people, believe it or not, who enjoy the hobby by collecting graded cards, and are just as passionate and involved with their collections as you appear to be with yours.

You've been here all of five minutes; how about a little respect for your fellow collectors who may not see things the way you do?

[Swadewade51]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Lemme clue you in, pal: not liking slabbed cards doesn't make you a more pious, pure, true collector than the guys who have a box full of slabs. There are people, believe it or not, who enjoy the hobby by collecting graded cards, and are just as passionate and involved with their collections as you appear to be with yours. You've been here all of five minutes; how about a little respect for your fellow collectors who may not see things the way you do?

+1

[perezfan]

Plenty of room in the hobby for all types of collectors. There is no right or wrong way to collect, which I'm sure everyone has heard zillions of times by now. So need for belligerence...

That said... SGC now upcharges you for shittier than expected grades too. I wanted to use them for a bunch of future submissions, but am seriously reconsidering. I'm simply dreading the impending wallet-ectomy (a "medical" term recently coined by my friend Dave).

[Balticfox]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

BF, you can make up your own mind; everyone is entitled to collect in whatever way they want. This hobby has room for all of it.

Yes, I agree.

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Lemme clue you in, pal....

Well if we're both agreed that I can make up my own mind, why are you suggesting that I need to be "clued in"? That doesn't make sense.

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

...not liking slabbed cards doesn't make you a more pious, pure, true collector than the guys who have a box full of slabs.

I neither said nor implied any such thing.

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

There are people, believe it or not, who enjoy the hobby by collecting graded cards, and are just as passionate and involved with their collections as you appear to be with yours.

Oh probably. But since we've already agreed that everyone can make up their own mind and "everyone is entitled to collect in whatever way they want", neither of us can speak for anyone else let alone address their level of passion.

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

But the issue we are discussing here is not your personal philosophy of collecting: if you don't want to collect graded cards, knock yourself out.

If it's all right with you, I'd rather stay conscious and alert.

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Instead, you come into a thread about grading company charging practices and crap all over the grading process itself and the people who use grading services.

I said that SGC was only charging what the market would bear and I didn't understand why the people who didn't like SGC's prices didn't just say "No!" That's basically just a common sense remark. As such that's not "crapping" on anybody.

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

You've been here all of five minutes....

Well yeah, but I have been posting rather actively on many and varied discussion forums since 2001 including the CGC comic board since 2005 (under a different name) and this board's Net54 Hockey and Non-Sport sister boards since 2011.

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

how about a little respect for your fellow collectors who may not see things the way you do?

Speaking of respecting fellow collectors, let me point out that you're the one who characterized a fellow poster (me) as "pious" and my comments as "narrow-minded" and "self-righteous". I've not (yet) said anything of that sort about you or anyone else on this board.

But simply expressing opinions that might not be shared by the majority of other board members here can hardly be classified as "disrespectful".