CGC Grading

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

We recently sent them a Goudey Ruth (borders trimmed off) and Gehrig (has back fully covered by album paper) Cards that are clearly authentic by any sane definition of the word that PSA and SGC refused to slab. When we get results we'll share. Word is they have a more sensible definition of authentic so we thought we'd give it a shot.

Why would the other companies refuse to authenticate them? They both have long histories of doing so. Either both companies have changed their rules for some inconceivable reason or the cards aren't as clearly authentic as you feel they are. They deal in Goudeys all day long, and I'm sure you're no slouch, so I'm at a loss.

...and Lou couldn't be soaked, huh?

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by BillyCoxDodgers3B

Why would the other companies refuse to authenticate them? They both have long histories of doing so. Either both companies have changed their rules for some inconceivable reason or the cards aren't as clearly authentic as you feel they are. They deal in Goudeys all day long, and I'm sure you're no slouch, so I'm at a loss.

...and Lou couldn't be soaked, huh?

It is the ever changing standards.

There is literally zero doubt about these cards. I screw up occasionally looking at online images, but I'm pretty reliable with card in hand as these were. Also, not that it's 100% but the consignors of these two particular cards aren't guys who would miss a counterfeit either, nor are they the types to try and sneak one past me.

The Lou may be "soakable" but not by me.

[Peter_Spaeth]

From limited anecdotal evidence, PSA has become extremely difficult about grading cards not already in its database. My 1971 music cards are listed and dated in both the Trading Card Database and the meticulous website of the leading music card collector. Not good enough for PSA, they wanted proof of the original distribution method. The individual in charge of that department has similar blocked repeated efforts by a dealer I know to grade issues for which he has excellent documentation.