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Old 09-27-2024, 12:49 PM
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Now I continue my previous comment, the yellow color that appears at the bottom as in the uniform does not appear on any Punch card, which means that it seems that this card was made with some computer program, I consider that it is a fake pasted on the original cardboard, perhaps they glued it on top of another one or they could have removed the original and glued this one, I repeat that in order to evaluate it you...
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Hopefully, I'm not alone, but I know nothing about this card, this set and really have no clue what I'm looking at or what the issue is.

Is the rectangular Cobb picture supposedly attached to the scribbly black, handcut background card??
Because the Cobb portion obviously sits in a very visible penny sleeve by itself, right?? It's merely sitting atop whatever the background thing is, and both are inside of a graded card sleeve.

So, if anyone can explain what I'm missing, it would be appreciated.

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The 1910 Punch set was produced in Cuba to commemorate the games pitting the Detroit Tigers and the Philadelphia Athletics against the Cuban Habana and Almendares teams. There are 48 cards known with 12 cards for the Detroit Tigers. The cards appear to be small photographic images crudely cut and pasted on a cardboard background. As Rolando explained above most of the cards were removed from the cardboard backing. Finding Punch cards still attached to there cardboard backing is very rare. Most graded examples are missing the backing and receive an Authentic grade. I have attached examples of a card with its backing, the reverse of the backing, a Ty Cobb card without its backing and a graded card to show the size of the cards in a standard SGC slab.
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The 1910 Punch set was produced in Cuba to commemorate the games pitting the Detroit Tigers and the Philadelphia Athletics against the Cuban Habana and Almendares teams. There are 48 cards known with 12 cards for the Detroit Tigers. The cards appear to be small photographic images crudely cut and pasted on a cardboard background. As Rolando explained above most of the cards were removed from the cardboard backing. Finding Punch cards still attached to there cardboard backing is very rare. Most graded examples are missing the backing and receive an Authentic grade. I have attached examples of a card with its backing, the reverse of the backing, a Ty Cobb card without its backing and a graded card to show the size of the cards in a standard SGC slab.
Appreciate your overall explanation, thank you. But with regard to the card being discussed in this thread, isn't the Cobb part in a penny sleeve on top of the cardboard backing? Doesn't look like an optical illusion, it looks like plastic, no?
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I do not think the Cobb card in the picture is in a penny sleeve. Based on the initial description, the photo we see was taken using a phone from a photo on an iPad. This may have caused some distortions in color and reflections we see. I would need to see the card personally to give any kind of verdict on it's authenticity. But I agree with Rolando that going by this photo alone the card looks very suspicious.
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I do not think the Cobb card in the picture is in a penny sleeve. Based on the initial description, the photo we see was taken using a phone from a photo on an iPad. This may have caused some distortions in color and reflections we see. I would need to see the card personally to give any kind of verdict on it's authenticity. But I agree with Rolando that going by this photo alone the card looks very suspicious.
When I first saw the photo, and the gentleman said it was just graded, it looked like the slab was in a graded card sleeve in the picture. I just assumed based on what I could see, it was in a PSA slab. I dont think it was in a Beckett holder, but I guess it’s possible. The Cobb in my photo, does appear bigger in size than the one posted a few posts above.
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On the right edge of the card near the top it looks like a part of another card, maybe it was a factory cut but it may be part of a card under Ty Cobb, on the right edge you see something similar from top to bottom half, to give an answer I have to have it in my hands, see its thickness and its printing, to know if it is original, although I don't believe it.
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