BST Section: Has priceless become the norm rather than the exception?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

I don't get upset by such posts, but it has always seemed to me that they are somehow not 100% genuinely interested in selling. If you really want to sell something, wouldn't you put a price on it?

Sure, there's risk that someone will jump on it and you'll feel stupid (as Fred points out) but there's also risk the other way—you alienate potential buyers who won't make an offer for fear of being seen as "too low" and therefore insulting.

Are the 90 percent of people who put a ridiculously high price on cards any more serious about selling?

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Are the 90 percent of people who put a ridiculously high price on cards any more serious about selling?

That is a good and fair point. Maybe....slightly, yes? (Especially if they're lugging them around to card shows)

[Bpm0014]

IMO a seller can do what they want, if it doesn't work for you, move on. Don't see why they owe it to anyone to put a price if they prefer to solicit offers.

I totally agree

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Are the 90 percent of people who put a ridiculously high price on cards any more serious about selling?

Which is worse: 1) listening to offers, or 2) $2.567 million?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by 4815162342

Which is worse: 1) listening to offers, or 2) $2.567 million?

The reference.
https://www.net54baseball.com/showth...ighlight=stahl

[calvindog]

The lack of a scan bothers me more.

[Casey2296]

I sell 90%+ of the cards I post on BST, I do my research on current pricing no matter "what I have in to it" and price accordingly, always at a fair price for the good people of net54. I post to sell a card, not squeeze every dime out because if I'm selling that means I'm raising funds for something better.
You always know you priced too low when you get the immediate "I'll take it" but that's okay too.

The recent "please don't ask me what I want for the card" which may have triggered this thread is a bit extreme but if that's you're selling strategy so be it.
If you don't want to price your card and want me to do the research, I'm fine with that and I'll give you a fair offer, but don't waste my time time if you haven't done the research or have unrealistic expectations on the price. If I want the card for my PC and can't live without it, I'll overpay but that's usually not the case.

Or just be honest and say " I don't really want to sell this card unless I get over current market so don't bother coming with a fair offer". Perfectly okay response and you're not wasting anyone's time.

[jingram058]

Jeez Louise, how many times have I brought this up? Only to either be ignored or told to shut the f up and move on.

How hard is it to put a price on it? Pretty hard, when you want thousands of dollars for it.

[maniac_73]

I agree that everything should be priced, with a few exceptions. For rare, one-of-a-kind pieces like some Ruth or Joe Jackson items I've seen listed, it's not really about the money—it's about finding the right buyer who will negotiate privately. But for the other 99%, just list a price

[Snapolit1]

Bottom line is inviting people to make offers without any stated prices reduces your chances of selling an item dramatically. Because most people won’t bother. So you are basically telegraphing that selling is not really a priority.

Most likely whatever you are listing will show up 17 times in upcoming auctions anyway. It’s probably not that special.

[Leon]

At least it's a starting point. If the asking price is super high you can always offer 50% or whatever....And tell the seller that is what it's worth to you.

There are a few of my friends I deal with where I have gotten close to 50% off, by asking. I think I got close to 50% off of the one below. A friend was selling it on the bay...Ducky had no dental plan.

I would way rather members put prices on their listings but that is their call...

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Are the 90 percent of people who put a ridiculously high price on cards any more serious about selling?

[1952boyntoncollector]

i do think its not courteous if 100 percent of your cards you list are priced so high that nobody buys them as you are taking up space for people who want to sell their cards potentially but its not my website

[sportscardpete]

I don't mind if someone doesn't have a price on something rare and esoteric. What I do mind is if someone is fielding an offer to only go around and try to get a higher price elsewhere.

[Kutcher55]

Facebook has these "DonD" (Deal or no Deal) groups where the specific charter of the group is that people can post things without a price and solicit offers. It is well defined there, so if you don't like it then tough noogies. The DonD format is favorable for the seller of course because they have the potential to get offers higher than what they would be willing to accept for the card, and if the offer doesn't meet their # they can simply "no deal" and keep the card.

I would prefer net54 disallow such a format, but it is not my site. Ultimately, like many, I just avoid such listings, as I avoid dealers who don't post prices at shows. It's a good way of avoiding unnecessary encounters with the lame-asses of the world.

[gunboat82]

Originally Posted by Kutcher55

Facebook has these "DonD" (Deal or no Deal) groups where the specific charter of the group is that people can post things without a price and solicit offers. It is well defined there, so if you don't like it then tough noogies. The DonD format is favorable for the seller of course because they have the potential to get offers higher than what they would be willing to accept for the card, and if the offer doesn't meet their # they can simply "no deal" and keep the card.

I would prefer net54 disallow such a format, but it is not my site. Ultimately, like many, I just avoid such listings, as I avoid dealers who don't post prices at shows. It's a good way of avoiding unnecessary encounters with the lame-asses of the world.

I personally dislike the Deal or No Deal format, but I've sold more that way recently to drive engagement on my posts. I won't pretend to know how Facebook's algorithm works, but it appears that having people active in the comment section generates more traffic, resulting in more eyeballs and more sales.

I haven't had a situation where I received a higher offer than I was willing to accept, nor am I even realistically hoping for it. In my experience, someone always starts extremely low, usually with a comment like "Just to get you started." Then other people see that bid and go up from there in increments, like with most auctions. Most of the people bidding are high-volume resellers looking for new inventory to flip for a quick profit.

The risk of someone coming in too hard and too high is quite low. For me, the sole motivation is to avoid having my posts buried too quickly by the popular resellers who post in every vintage group at least once a day.

[parkplace33]

Originally Posted by gunboat82

I personally dislike the Deal or No Deal format, but I've sold more that way recently to drive engagement on my posts. I won't pretend to know how Facebook's algorithm works, but it appears that having people active in the comment section generates more traffic, resulting in more eyeballs and more sales.

I haven't had a situation where I received a higher offer than I was willing to accept, nor am I even realistically hoping for it. In my experience, someone always starts extremely low, usually with a comment like "Just to get you started." Then other people see that bid and go up from there in increments, like with most auctions. Most of the people bidding are high-volume resellers looking for new inventory to flip for a quick profit.

The risk of someone coming in too hard and too high is quite low. For me, the sole motivation is to avoid having my posts buried too quickly by the popular resellers who post in every vintage group at least once a day.

The DOND sites get the most hate of all Facebook card groups and I don't understand why. You go in knowing the deal, either bid or move on.

And for those not wanting to engage with dealers at shows with no prices, I disagree. I have found many deals with these types of sellers over the years.

[bigfanNY]

I list prices for mist of the items I post on BST. That said Amost all the time first message I get is "What is the best you can do on this" So I am asked to price my item and Bid against myself to start ball rolling. Just part of doing business.
J

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

Originally Posted by bigfanNY

"What is the best you can do on this"
J

My least favorite words.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by bigfanNY

...What is the best you can do on this...

Package securely and ship quickly.

ETA:

If it's a $100 card, come back with "The best I can do I sell it for $125; however, I figured I'd sell it to a Net54 member for $100."

[packs]

I tend to think that anyone who doesn't price their card doesn't really want to sell it. They just want to see what they might get for it. And in that case, I'm not interested in making an offer or trying to pry your card from you for whatever inflated price you're holding out for.

[Snapolit1]

For those complaining that this is really trivial and not so important as to get aggravated about . . . I hate to break the bad news, but nothing we discuss on this board is actually important.

Just more filler to divert us from the stark reality that our days are numbered and no one has any idea what this is all about.

[LEHR]

People can obviously list their items however they want; but without a price and a scan/photo in the listing I just move on. I'm not wasting my time asking for information that IMO should be included in the bare minimum of creating a sales post.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by packs

I tend to think that anyone who doesn't price their card doesn't really want to sell it. They just want to see what they might get for it. And in that case, I'm not interested in making an offer or trying to pry your card from you for whatever inflated price you're holding out for.

This.

[ALR-bishop]

Originally Posted by packs

I tend to think that anyone who doesn't price their card doesn't really want to sell it. They just want to see what they might get for it. And in that case, I'm not interested in making an offer or trying to pry your card from you for whatever inflated price you're holding out for.

Unless it is that one card you need and have to have and hardly ever is available

[Leon]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

Unless it is that one card you need and have to have and hardly ever is available

Yes, except for that one card I have looked for for 20 yrs, I will never bid with that company again!!

As for prices in the BST. I wish people put them but I don't care.
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[ricktmd]

If Leon is OK with it and it isnt starting issues except being irritating, then I have no issue. At the same time I rarely buy on the board unless I see a deal. Being respectful I will not offer a low, below market price to a board member. Putting up cards without a price is a deal killer for many members and lowers the chance of selling and item IMO. I do feel if someone is putting up a high priced Ruth or Jackson item that only few can afford there is some sense to going priceless. On a card worth under 1,000.00 I think its lame, so I choose to ignore it. The problem is that so many items are now listed this way. Can anyone post what the approximate % of vintage cards being listed without a price is? Or has someone and I missed it

[JollyElm]

It's like going to a restaurant and finding they purposely don't put the prices in the menu.
I just say, "This place ain't for me," and hit the bricks for a KFC where the costs of the deliciousness are always looming large for all to see on the digital menu board above the deep fryer.