What are the best vintage, investment-type players in your opinion?

[vintagerookies51]

I don't feel confident in calling anybody but the household names investments. There are plenty of people who are probably undervalued that are just too niche to reach anybody that doesn't get deep into the history of baseball - John Ward, Ed Delahanty, Frank Robinson.

Even the names we think are household ballplayers aren't as well known as we think - it's insane to me over the years how many people couldn't tell me who Mickey Mantle is. But they're known well enough to the public that anybody who gets into collecting old baseball cards usually jumps to the legends - Ruth, Mantle, Robinson, Cobb, Wagner, DiMaggio, Gehrig, Young, Mays, Aaron are guys I would put in the top 10 in no particular order. Players who are arguably just as good or better but aren't as well known I would throw in the next tier - WaJo, Mathewson, Ted Williams, Yogi Berra, Stan Musial, Clemente, Koufax

Huge announcements like the MLB including Negro Leagues stats has possibly inserted guys like Josh Gibson into the mix as well

[Beercan collector]

Originally Posted by vintagerookies51

I don't feel confident in calling anybody but the household names investments. There are plenty of people who are probably undervalued that are just too niche to reach anybody that doesn't get deep into the history of baseball - John Ward, Ed Delahanty, Frank Robinson.

Even the names we think are household ballplayers aren't as well known as we think - it's insane to me over the years how many people couldn't tell me who Mickey Mantle is. But they're known well enough to the public that anybody who gets into collecting old baseball cards usually jumps to the legends - Ruth, Mantle, Robinson, Cobb, Wagner, DiMaggio, Gehrig, Young, Mays, Aaron are guys I would put in the top 10 in no particular order. Players who are arguably just as good or better but aren't as well known I would throw in the next tier - WaJo, Mathewson, Ted Williams, Yogi Berra, Stan Musial, Clemente, Koufax

Huge announcements like the MLB including Negro Leagues stats has possibly inserted guys like Josh Gibson into the mix as well

👍 .. Cy Young t206 portrait will probably always float ..
with the Cy Young Award and what not .. And it’s a good looking card

[Peter_Spaeth]

Good list. I'd put Joe Jackson in and take Berra out. And I probably would add Rose and Ryan from the 60s.

[Fuddjcal]

Very sorry I derailed the discussion. I didn't mean to slander poor Mike Trout, the ChyNA doll. Can we forget that bum now and talk about Mickey again?
Trout has packs to rip so he can add to his 37 M salary for doing absolutely nothing again this year. I can't see where that would cause any animosity.

I'm just curious if it's libel or slander if it's true?

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Fuddjcal

Very sorry I derailed the discussion. I didn't mean to slander poor Mike Trout, the ChyNA doll. Can we forget that bum now and talk about Mickey again?
Trout has packs to rip so he can add to his 37 M salary for doing absolutely nothing again this year. I can't see where that would cause any animosity.

I'm just curious if it's libel or slander if it's true?

It was a great derailment as we got to see someone be wrong and then argue they were correct. That is always fun. As someone who may or may not have gotten a letter from a lawyer for something they posted on here. I can guarantee the letter from the lawyer used libel and not slander.

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by bnorth

It was a great derailment as we got to see someone be wrong and then argue they were correct. That is always fun. As someone who may or may not have gotten a letter from a lawyer for something they posted on here. I can guarantee the letter from the lawyer used libel and not slander.

I was never clear on the merits of the actual accusation. Writing that Trout's teammates hate him - what's the legal threshold? Would 2 hateful teammates satisfy the claim? Or would it require a higher percentage?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Fuddjcal

Very sorry I derailed the discussion. I didn't mean to slander poor Mike Trout, the ChyNA doll. Can we forget that bum now and talk about Mickey again?
Trout has packs to rip so he can add to his 37 M salary for doing absolutely nothing again this year. I can't see where that would cause any animosity.

I'm just curious if it's libel or slander if it's true?

No, truth is a defense, but it would be tough to establish here.