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Old 09-12-2024, 06:56 PM
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In an attempt to redeem myself for mistakenly claiming Ed Abbaticchio to be in the picture, I am attaching below a couple of images of Pat Flaherty to support my identification of him in the group photo.
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In an attempt to redeem myself for mistakenly claiming Ed Abbaticchio to be in the picture, I am attaching below a couple of images of Pat Flaherty to support my identification of him in the group photo.
I think you're right on it being Flaherty and not Gibson. Flaherty didn't play for the Pirates in 1906 but was in their organization all year.
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I've been looking through the Pittsburgh newspapers to see who was in spring training with them in 1906. Players who trained with them but did not appear in a regular-season game included Frank Oberlin, Harry Newmyer, and W.B. "Doc" Moskiman. I believe that Moskiman is a good match for the player second from right in the group photo.

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Old 09-13-2024, 03:42 PM
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FWIW, the image of Bob Ganley published in the February 18, 1906, edition of the Pittsburg Press shows him in a white cap. He played part of the 1905 season with the Pirates and part with Des Moines of the Western League. Players usually wore their uniforms from the previous season in spring training. The Pirates had not had white caps since 1900, so it seems unlikely to me that Sam Leever (who had been a Pirate since 1898) would be wearing anything other than a dark-colored Pirate cap. I suggest that the player on the far left may be Ganley, and the second player is Deacon Phillippe. I've attached Ganley images below. (The image on the far right is the 1906 Press image.)
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FWIW, the image of Bob Ganley published in the February 18, 1906, edition of the Pittsburg Press shows him in a white cap. He played part of the 1905 season with the Pirates and part with Des Moines of the Western League. Players usually wore their uniforms from the previous season in spring training. The Pirates had not had white caps since 1900, so it seems unlikely to me that Sam Leever (who had been a Pirate since 1898) would be wearing anything other than a dark-colored Pirate cap. I suggest that the player on the far left may be Ganley, and the second player is Deacon Phillippe. I've attached Ganley images below. (The image on the far right is the 1906 Press image.)
I realize the angle can be deceptive, but aren't Ganley's ears too low relative to his eyes?
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So The guy standing next to Honus Wagner is not Fred Clarke ?
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So The guy standing next to Honus Wagner is not Fred Clarke ?
Definitely not Clarke.
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As I stand right now: #1 possibly Leever, #2 no doubt Ganley, #3 no doubt Flaherty, #4 no doubt Nealon, #5 no doubt Ritchie, #6 maybe Willis, #7 Wagner.
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I realize the angle can be deceptive, but aren't Ganley's ears too low relative to his eyes?
In both of the Ganley images I had posted previously, his head is angled up a bit, so that his ears are low relative to his eyes. Below I have attached an image with his head angled down more.

Edited to add: I no longer think this is Ganley. See the next post.
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