Show...me...your print variations!

[John1941]

I found one going through my 1972 Topps set: #335 Bill Hands is usually but not always found with a cluster of small marks that look like ink stains on the bare part of his right arm and his cap.

Looking through COMC listings, only 5 of the 45 examples for sale do not have the marks. Both buybacks listed do not have it, which may or may not suggest that Topps is aware of this.

There is also a squiggle like a sideways six to the right of his cap and a blotch above it which seem to be constants.

[ALR-bishop]

Good one John. I need a "regular" one

[Elberson]

1965 topps 405 roseboro…….does anyone know if this top boarder was fixed?or the story behind it?

[Cliff Bowman]

I knew about the similar recurring 1965 Johnny Podres but not Roseboro. Isn't there another uncorrected one like Roseboro?

[G1911]

I don't think Roseboro was fixed, all of my copies have had the wrong top stripe.

[ALR-bishop]

Never noticed it before but my Roseboro has the same border defect. I have one of the Podres pinkish top borders, but not sure if it was discussed here in the variants thread or I saw it someplace else

In looking at my set I had forgotten how many recurring print defects there were in it

[jp1216]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

I MUST FIND a 1970 Dock Ellis like these!

Not '70 but his '72 freak (not mine):

[swarmee]

Red line extends to card's right border:

1963 Post - [Base] #22 - Bill Stafford
Courtesy of COMC.com

Red line normal:

1963 Post - [Base] #22 - Bill Stafford
Courtesy of COMC.com

Or is this just a red sheet alignment issue that is recurring?

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by swarmee

Red line extends to card's right border:

1963 Post - [Base] #22 - Bill Stafford
Courtesy of COMC.com

Red line normal:

1963 Post - [Base] #22 - Bill Stafford
Courtesy of COMC.com

Or is this just a red sheet alignment issue that is recurring?

Aren't they variations between what product the card was actually cut from? I know I have a few different Ed Mathews variations.

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Aren't they variations between what product the card was actually cut from? I know I have a few different Ed Mathews variations.

That could be it; the cropping is slightly different left to right.

[whiteymet]

Ben has it correct.

Dan Mabey has posted recently here on Net 54 that he is getting ready to offer some of his superb books about the different Post cereal issues

In his book about the1963 set he notes that the Stafford card was issued on two different cereal boxes. A 13 oz Alpha Bits and a 12 oz. Post Toasties.

He goes on to describe how to tell the differences between the cards for those working on a Master Set.

Among the descriptions are note the color of the grass above his right shoulder. On the Alpha Bits card it is deep green while the Post Toasties has a lighter shade of green. The stands on the Alpha Bits are blue while the Post Toasties is purple/gray.

So the card with the red line to the border is off of a Alpha Bits box while the shorter line is from a Post Toasties box

[4reals]

1957 topps Gilliam #115 - partial red ink bleed in baseball on back. Reoccurring.




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[Kenmarks]

Originally Posted by whiteymet

Ben has it correct.

Dan Mabey has posted recently here on Net 54 that he is getting ready to offer some of his superb books about the different Post cereal issues

In his book about the1963 set he notes that the Stafford card was issued on two different cereal boxes. A 13 oz Alpha Bits and a 12 oz. Post Toasties.

He goes on to describe how to tell the differences between the cards for those working on a Master Set.

Among the descriptions are note the color of the grass above his right shoulder. On the Alpha Bits card it is deep green while the Post Toasties has a lighter shade of green. The stands on the Alpha Bits are blue while the Post Toasties is purple/gray.

So the card with the red line to the border is off of a Alpha Bits box white the shorter line is from a Post Toasties box

Totally agree with Whiteymet. Cards came from different cereal panels on different products. For folks who collect master sets of these Post Cereal cards, differences appear on each card of a player, for every different cereal box he appeared on. Those differences allow a collector to be able to put together a master set of cards. Dan's books are great, and wonderful tools in building that master set.

Also believe the reissuance of his books will occur soon. Very soon.

[Elberson]

I also came across this 1965 topps carty 305…..different colored boarder

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by Elberson

I also came across this 1965 topps carty 305…..different colored boarder

This could be sun/light exposure damage bleaching out the yellow ink.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by swarmee

This could be sun/light exposure damage bleaching out the yellow ink.

No, it is recurring and not overly rare and has been known for quite a while. Definitely a printing flaw and not a true variation. https://www.ebay.com/itm/25613426544...Bk9SR-rw8c22ZA ETA here's one that sold recently. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1965-Topps-....m43663.l10137

[Elberson]

Originally Posted by swarmee

This could be sun/light exposure damage bleaching out the yellow ink.

Not my card but hear is the whole one from eBay

[Elberson]

Here’s a couple more errors / print defects from the same seller

[swarmee]

Ah, thanks.

[mikemb]

Here are some variations of the Fischer card. The one in the top row has a white streak. The first one in the bottom row is similar to the one posted. The middle one is slightly different. The last one is the normal card.

Mike

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[Elberson]

I have 12 fischers but not a one has the mark…..I guess I’ll be looking for one now…….thanks

[4reals]

Originally Posted by Elberson

1965 topps 405 roseboro…….does anyone know if this top boarder was fixed?or the story behind it?

Never fixed


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[ALR-bishop]

Maybe the odd border just above his head was a premonition of August 22, 1965

[ALR-bishop]

The seller Elberson mention above, Barry ( Isakur), only sells variations/variants/ recurring print defects. I always go through his many listings looking for anything I don’t have. Most can be found on line at a cheaper price but I have bought several items from him and have found him a dependable seller

[mikemb]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

The seller Elberson mention above, Barry ( Isakur), only sells variations/variants/ recurring print defects. I always go through his many listings looking for anything I don’t have. Most can be found on line at a cheaper price but I have bought several items from him and have found him a dependable seller

Same here. I have bought cards from Barry over the last 20 years and never any issues. He also has a lot of Fleer cards from the late 60's and early 70's as well.

Mike

[ALR-bishop]

Mike — I also do Fleer sets and most people don’t realize how many baseball related sets Fleer put out between 1964 and 1980. Barry is a great source for some of the more obscure issues in those years. He has even pointed out some errors in the Fleer Sticker Blog

[Elberson]

I forgot one

[butchie_t]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

The seller Elberson mention above, Barry ( Isakur), only sells variations/variants/ recurring print defects. I always go through his many listings looking for anything I don’t have. Most can be found on line at a cheaper price but I have bought several items from him and have found him a dependable seller

I have worked and bought from him as well. Very excellent to deal with. I freaked him out one time when we began communicating and I sent a couple of want lists his way. He had not realized the extent of some collectors 'needs'.



Butch

[ALR-bishop]

More 1965. Some ot all may be in here already somewhere

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[jbaskin]

Hi guys,
Have you seen this set for sale? Many variations listed. Good pictures, too.
https://milehighcardco.com/1967_Topp...LOT103756.aspx

[Elberson]

What would you call this 1965 topps 404 stan Williams blue bleed? Wet transfer?

[Elberson]

And a cool 1965 topps high 549 cubs rookies stars…….back bleed

[Elberson]

And one more 1965 topps 373 curt simmons missing yellow/ white letter version……is this a tuff one?

[ALR-bishop]

This may have been discussed previously but the year 1965 on the back of the 1967 Roy Face is usually always distorted. It can, however occassionaly be found clear. Also 1962 and 1963 on the back can on rare ocassions be found blotted.

But if you look up the 67 Face on Deans site he indicates a version of the Face can be found with RO missing in Roy on the back. Anyone seen or have one of thiose ?

[swarmee]

1963 Topps - [Base] #550 - High # - Duke Snider [BVG 6.5 EX‑MT+]
Courtesy of COMC.com

Recurring yellow streak in the inset photo, probably caused by the blue not getting there.

[ALR-bishop]

That 63 Snider is fairly scarce

[G1911]

1964 Topps Gene Stephens #308 can occasionally be found with a wide streak of green over his face.

[G1911]

1959 Topps #431 Whammy Douglas.

Both the yellow splotching and the black dotted lines in the bottom white border are recurring.

Whammy lost an eye as a child, but still made it to the major leagues. He only played int he majors in 1957 with the Pirates, never appearing in a game with the depicted team on his 1959 card.

[ALR-bishop]

One of the greatest names ever

[Tedwilliams1918]

“Dot head”

[Tedwilliams1918]

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[ALR-bishop]

Both of these may already be in here somewhere. Both recuring. The Conley is pretty scarce. The Koufax is not too hard to find

[Elberson]

1965 topps 561 dodgers rc with botched bottom boarder or two toned? Both faded and normal version are easy founds

[butchie_t]

I know these have been posted here, by me and others, previously. But, a couple more to add to my PC.

I believe the Brent Strom is yet another iteration of the grouping that he currently enjoys. I have not had time to look closer at it just yet. The variation has to do with the pink line across the bottom of the white blotch next to his ear.

I really need to buckle down and take better pictures of all the Strom's that I have found. If this one (one off so far), then it is probably 9 - 10 of these that I have come across.

And the Jack Aker meteor was an easy pick up. It cost more to ship, not much, than what the card went for.

Cheers


Butch

[ALR-bishop]

Is there a "master" Strom number ?

[butchie_t]

Hhahahah,

I'm gonna have to get back to you on that. The Strom cards are a living document, it seems at the moment.

I may have created a STROMster! woot!!



Cheers,

Butch

[ALR-bishop]

I think I ended up with 5 or so last time it was posted. Need to check

[butchie_t]

From my highly unofficial count, with the last one posted, I am up to 12. And I believe, not exactly sure....Savedfrommyspokes has one that I don't have. Potentially making it a bakers dozen.

Mind you a fair amount of wishful thinking went into the calculated numbers.

A couple that I have are one off's. But the lion share are repeatable.

And I believe this is another Aker to that list too.

Within the green circle you can see a hint of the attempt to fix the meteor still remaining.

You may already have this one as well.

B.T.

[johnlenhardt]

There is a least 15 various Strom cards and more if you count the misc. donuts that can be found at different spots on the card.

I also believe there is a Acker that has a large round white blob on the top left. I had the chance to buy it some time ago but is was creased, so I passed on it.

[savedfrommyspokes]

Some of the Strom cards I have come across over the years...with some Aker cards also .