PSA autograph authentication

[Rhotchkiss]

PSA sucks at grading cards. I expect they absolutely blow at authenticating signatures. My gut, more than 50% of authenticated signatures are fake. But Hank is 1000% correct - an “authenticated” fake is worth more than an unauthenticated real auto. Thems the facts

“Never get Cheated”

Ryan Hotchkiss

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

PSA sucks at grading cards. I expect they absolutely blow at authenticating signatures. My gut, more than 50% of authenticated signatures are fake. But Hank is 1000% correct - an “authenticated” fake is worth more than an unauthenticated real auto. Thems the facts

“Never get Cheated”

Ryan Hotchkiss

Plus One

[balltrash]

I don't normally get involved in these sorts of threads but this is a ludicrous statement. I will grant that there are certain tranches of material that I do not have the background to comment on (i.e. entertainment autographs and those of ultra modern football or hockey players) but to state that these guys do their job wrong 50% of the time is, well, ludicrous!

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

PSA sucks at grading cards. I expect they absolutely blow at authenticating signatures. My gut, more than 50% of authenticated signatures are fake. But Hank is 1000% correct - an “authenticated” fake is worth more than an unauthenticated real auto. Thems the facts

“Never get Cheated”

Ryan Hotchkiss

[bk400]

So sometimes I'll see graded, vintage rookie card autos where the player died around 5 years ago, and he was known to be a highly active signer 10-20 years ago. But the cert number on the PSA slab would suggest that the card was graded 2-3 years ago. It strikes me as a bit odd that someone would wait more than 2 years (and probably much longer than that) after getting an already valuable rookie card signed before getting it authenticated. In those situations, I can't help but think that an alternative explanation is plausible, if not more likely.

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by bk400

So sometimes I'll see graded, vintage rookie card autos where the player died around 5 years ago, and he was known to a highly active signer 10-20 years ago. But the cert number on the PSA slab would suggest that the card was graded 2-3 years ago. It strikes me as a bit odd that someone would wait more than 2 years (and probably much longer than that) after getting an already valuable rookie card signed before getting it authenticated. In those situations, I can't help but think that an alternative explanation is plausible, if not more likely.

Wha?

[sbfinley]

Originally Posted by bk400

So sometimes I'll see graded, vintage rookie card autos where the player died around 5 years ago, and he was known to a highly active signer 10-20 years ago. But the cert number on the PSA slab would suggest that the card was graded 2-3 years ago. It strikes me as a bit odd that someone would wait more than 2 years (and probably much longer than that) after getting an already valuable rookie card signed before getting it authenticated. In those situations, I can't help but think that the alternative explanation is plausible, if not more likely.

Signed cards have only really blew up in popularity in the past 5-10 years. Those guys that were writing letters in the 70’s, 80’s, and 90’s and hitting the show circuit didn’t have reason to authenticate mid level cards until recently. The majority of the largest collections I’ve seen are raw until it becomes time to sell. As someone who’s sold plenty of signed cards you are going to get less and be holding it longer if it’s not authenticated.

[bk400]

Originally Posted by sbfinley

Signed cards have only really blew up in popularity in the past 5-10 years. Those guys that were writing letters in the 70’s, 80’s, and 90’s and hitting the show circuit didn’t have reason to authenticate mid level cards until recently. The majority of the largest collections I’ve seen are raw until it becomes time to sell. As someone who’s sold plenty of signed cards you are going to get less and be holding it longer if it’s not authenticated.

Very clear and helpful. Thanks for this.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by bk400

So sometimes I'll see graded, vintage rookie card autos where the player died around 5 years ago, and he was known to be a highly active signer 10-20 years ago. But the cert number on the PSA slab would suggest that the card was graded 2-3 years ago. It strikes me as a bit odd that someone would wait more than 2 years (and probably much longer than that) after getting an already valuable rookie card signed before getting it authenticated. In those situations, I can't help but think that an alternative explanation is plausible, if not more likely.

I had 4 Aaron 1954 topps signed RCd and never had graded until I wanted to sell as prices dictated...why are these sitting here