Ohtani CARDS are Mostly UNDERVALUED

[packs]

I thought that what's you meant by his value. He's about to win his third MVP. I didn't think his value on the field was in question.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by packs

I thought that what's you meant by his value. He's about to win his third MVP. I didn't think his value on the field was in question.

It's not at all in question. The issue is how great is that value in overall context. People speak of him as though he's possibly the best player ever. With a combined 41 WAR, that seems way premature to me.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

It's not at all in question. The issue is how great is that value in overall context. People speak of him as though he's possibly the best player ever. With a combined 41 WAR, that seems way premature to me.

We always need they hype. It is what drives almost everything in life and absolutely everything in our hobby and baseball in general. Nobody ever lives up to the hype and Mike Trout is about over so they had to move on.

[packs]

The list of three time MVPs is small and aside from Trout, who is active, and Bonds and Arod who had their own issues we're familiar with, the rest of the list were first ballot HOFers. Good company to be in.

I agree he's unlikely to hit major milestones like 500 homers or 3,000 hits, or 300 wins / 5,000 strike outs, but I think most modern pitchers will also struggle to reach those milestones and most modern hitters won't win three MVPs.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by packs

The list of three time MVPs is small and aside from Trout, who is active, and Bonds and Arod who had their own issues we're familiar with, the rest of the list were first ballot HOFers. Good company to be in.

I agree he's unlikely to hit major milestones like 500 homers or 3,000 hits, or 300 wins / 5,000 strike outs, but I think most modern pitchers will also struggle to reach those milestones and most modern hitters won't win three MVPs.

He’s about to win his third MVP and he’s just entering his prime. He’s poised to be at least a 45-45 player during the year he’s rehabbing from Tommy John surgery. Oh and he’s an ace pitcher and the best two way player since Babe Ruth. Yes, he’s one of the greatest players in the past 50 years.

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by calvindog

He’s about to win his third MVP and he’s just entering his prime. He’s poised to be at least a 45-45 player during the year he’s rehabbing from Tommy John surgery. Oh and he’s an ace pitcher and the best two way player since Babe Ruth. Yes, he’s one of the greatest players in the past 50 years.

Agree

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by calvindog

He’s about to win his third MVP and he’s just entering his prime. He’s poised to be at least a 45-45 player during the year he’s rehabbing from Tommy John surgery. Oh and he’s an ace pitcher and the best two way player since Babe Ruth. Yes, he’s one of the greatest players in the past 50 years.

I would argue he's in the middle of his prime (28 - 32 for most baseball players) otherwise I would agree.

[bk400]

When it comes to the Dodgers, I'm more of a box score follower, but I couldn't help but see the footage from the 10-hour wait to get into Dodger Stadium for...the bobblehead day featuring Ohtani...and his puppy? Who "threw" out the first pitch. With Ohtani as the catcher.

Can you imagine Nolan Ryan out there on the mound with a puppy? Or Ichiro?

Ohtani is like the dorkiest dude, but people absolutely love him. Maybe it's because he's so dorky that they love him. He's like the anti-celebrity sportsman.

And, to add to the dork factor, it seems like he's also a card collector -- perhaps from his NPB days. (Which suggests he's a collector of Japanese cards.)

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...ard-deal-topps